Donjuan Dimarco Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) Hello, I simply cannot understand why some idiotic english captains are shooting on each other in the port battle of Pinar del Rio yesterday. The consequences I draw out of this and my clan fellas won't attending in port battles anymore. Cheers and good luck Donjuan Edited August 21, 2017 by Donjuan Dimarco 3
JackJimbo Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Sorry people it is not even times that one from boredom in the port battle on the own player shoots when the opponent does not come 1
Alado Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 You did not even try to cool the area, you thought that the Spanish would appear to be able to make your photo of your triumphant clone fleet? Wait seated.
Skully Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 It is a recurring theme that happens in empty Port Battles. Whatever the reason, do not shoot at anyone who does not want to be shot at. Shoot at forts if you want to. Simple courtesy, anything else is green-on-green. 1
Stepp636 Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) double post Edited August 21, 2017 by Stepp636
Stepp636 Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Donjuan Dimarco said: Hello, I simply cannot understand why some idiotic english captains are shooting on each other in the port battle of Pinar del Rio yesterday. The consequences I draw out of this and my clan fellas won't attending in port battles anymore. Cheers and good luck Donjuan I'm pretty sure I'm responsible for encouraging others to shoot at each other and I think I did the first shot. Sorry clan mate. But why does it upset you so much? Repair cost of 500 Gold?
Christoph Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 @Donjuan Dimarco Das war doch schon immer so😉 Ein bisschen Spaß muss man im leeren PB doch haben
Georg Fromm Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Da hat wohl jeder so seine eigene Vorstellung von Spaß... 1
Donjuan Dimarco Posted August 22, 2017 Author Posted August 22, 2017 Na Christoph, wenn einem die eigene AGGA um die Ohren fliegt, denkt man da wohl anders. Die Dinger kann man eben nicht von der Stange craften. Deine Argumentation ist leider etws kontraproduktiv
Donjuan Dimarco Posted August 22, 2017 Author Posted August 22, 2017 Das ist aber das Spiegelbild warum wir gegen richtige Nationen stets den Kürzeren ziehen
Donjuan Dimarco Posted August 22, 2017 Author Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) Solche Faxen würde es bei Dänen und Schweden niemals geben! Edited August 22, 2017 by Donjuan Dimarco
Donjuan Dimarco Posted August 22, 2017 Author Posted August 22, 2017 Ich habe auf sowas jedenfalls kein Bock mehr und überlege ernsthaft einen Nationenwechsel
Johnny Rotten Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) On 8/21/2017 at 11:29 AM, Donjuan Dimarco said: Hello, I simply cannot understand why some idiotic english captains are shooting on each other in the port battle of Pinar del Rio yesterday. The consequences I draw out of this and my clan fellas won't attending in port battles anymore. Cheers and good luck Donjuan Actually, after that port battle, 2 Brits in Pirate Frigates decided to sink each other to deny us the cap/kill. I reported it but idk - will the devs even address that either? Seems like Brits would sooner sink each other (green on green) than have anyone else do it. Bit of a c**tish thing to do seen as it is deliberately denying others from playing as intended for what? Because they couldn't be bothered to put up a fight? Why not just surrender? Edited August 22, 2017 by Johnny Rotten 1
HamBlower Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 Darum sind schon (fast) alle aktiven Member von britischen Clan's dort weg. Egozentrik und Disziplinlosigkeit sind an der Tagesordnung gewesen
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Johnny Rotten said: deliberately denying others from playing as intended for what? Because they couldn't be bothered to put up a fight? Why not just surrender? Correct approach of mind indeed. Will agree with that, fight to the end... But, if in continuous non stop interdiction and maybe, who knows, to deny the opponent "ego" something to chant victory over ?!... It is as much powergaming as a lot of other actions undertaken by players... *sigh*... "as intended" is such a romanticized way to view things when seen from the outside... Mutually agreed friendly fire is not considered a breach of rules as stated many times before.
Skully Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 ( @The Red Duke, psst, you are going off-topic here http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/22377-green-on-green-to-stop-the-enemy-from-killing-you/ and messing up my nice individual posts in the other thread. )
Johnny Rotten Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Peter Goldman said: I haven't seen it myself, but from what I heard these players were unable to fight because they ran out of repairs. You can't understand one thing, you failed to capture them. It happens very often that players decide to turn off survival to deny the prize from their enemy. No they were the pursuers and only decided to do it because we had set up a trap. They would have continued chasing us had we not had backup. We wanted to cap them, all we did was chain them. I think I got an assist because i let off one broadside before they had fully destroyed each other. Edited August 22, 2017 by Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Peter Goldman said: Yes, they chased 3-4 ships and got ambushed by 6. You say sinking each other to deny prize is not fair, I answer that ambushes are not fair. We are both right and these things are not meant to be fair So something that historically never happened is the same as something that did? This is pretty much the running theme here...
Johnny Rotten Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 Just now, Peter Goldman said: Historically some captains could set their magazine on fire and let the ship explode. ...and that should be a perk, this is about green on green. Nice strawman.
Johnny Rotten Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 No I expect a good fight to the end - all it takes to sink a rat is 1 or 2 good broadsides, easily done with 2 captains working together. Couple that with an unexpected boarding or 2 and it can easily be won. In the meantime a counter-trap can be set and everyone has a fun time.
Sir Texas Sir Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Peter Goldman said: I haven't seen it myself, but from what I heard these players were unable to fight because they ran out of repairs. You can't understand one thing, you failed to capture them. It happens very often that players decide to turn off survival to deny the prize from their enemy and I don't want to bring "historical" accuracy here but it's valid tactic. I don't want my enemies to use my powerful ships full of best mods, right? Is it an "asshole" tactic? Yes. Is it valid? Yes. I've seen dozens of players do it, especially pirates in outlaw battles and I never complained about it, I see no problem with it even when my enemies deny their ships from me taking them. I remember a certain clan that was formerly Brit and now France doing this with an Aggy in there fleet of Trincs. They couldn't get him down in time that our fleet caught up the Trincs had to take off and we still was able to finish off the Aggy and board him and capture it. It works some times and other times it doesn't. I know I have turned off my survival before and let a ship sink or blow to denie the prize just as many others have. Why would I let you capture my ship and use it against me? 1 hour ago, Peter Goldman said: Yes, they chased 3-4 ships and got ambushed by 6. You say sinking each other to deny prize is not fair, I answer that ambushes are not fair. We are both right and these things are not meant to be fair War is never fair, folks need to understand this... You want fair Legends will be your game. 54 minutes ago, Peter Goldman said: Historically some captains could set their magazine on fire and let the ship explode. Yes and some ships where scuttled to keep from being captured. So they could not be refitted and used back against that nation if they feel in the enemy hands. As for the OP even my own clan has done this and we joked that what if they pop in late and found half our ships demasted as we sat around bored testing things out.....oh and I get pissy if some one shoots my ship without permission. I mean down right cranky pissy lol 1
Ink Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 Agreed green on green is not against the rules. In case you were attacked please provide more information via private message to me, otherwise this thread is closed. To everyone, Captains, if you plan to shoot each other being in one team please make sure everyone agreed, otherwise it can be seen as breaking the rules. 3
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