What is the PVE server for ?

[Jean Ribault]

I logged onto the PVE server last night for a while to check if my character got its redeemables after the patch (it did, thanks devs), and also to deny the pirates getting another one my ships on PVP Global last night (sorry guys).  I haven't played any on this server in all my time until yesterday.

My question is:  what is the goal of this server, or your character on it?  Or, what should the goal be?  I don't really know what the point of it is, or if it's just to hone your skills.  Anyone have any input?

[Hodo]

4 minutes ago, Jean Ribault said:

I logged onto the PVE server last night for a while to check if my character got its redeemables after the patch (it did, thanks devs), and also to deny the pirates getting another one my ships on PVP Global last night (sorry guys).  I haven't played any on this server in all my time until yesterday.

My question is:  what is the goal of this server, or your character on it?  Or, what should the goal be?  I don't really know what the point of it is, or if it's just to hone your skills.  Anyone have any input?

I used it to grind up to rank 4 when I was starting.  I think it should be used as a noob zone server.  With a VERY limited region, like the rookie zone used to be.  

[Jean Ribault]

3 minutes ago, Hodo said:

I used it to grind up to rank 4 when I was starting.  I think it should be used as a noob zone server.  With a VERY limited region, like the rookie zone used to be.  

I like that, but since the characters now diverge it can't be.  This is why I asked what the purpose of it is, or at least what is the current purpose.  Really not sure TBH.

[Hodo]

19 minutes ago, Jean Ribault said:

I like that, but since the characters now diverge it can't be.  This is why I asked what the purpose of it is, or at least what is the current purpose.  Really not sure TBH.

It should be handled like Life is Feudal is handling it.  

You go up to the ferryman in LiF, and use a token to be transported to the mainland.  You lose all of the items except the starter items and you go to the mainland with your skills intact.   

The same could be done here.  You go to the admiralty store and use your transport mark (1 per character), and leave for the open seas.   Where you will choose which server you want to go to, and your XP will be sent there as a redeemable on login.   

The two PVP servers should be renamed to PVP-Global, and PVP-Limited.

There will be descriptions below the servers, with current population numbers.  They will tell you the differences between them.  How Global will have no restrictions on when port battles can happen or PVP, yet Limited will have a 5 hour Port Battle limitation.  

 

[The Wren]

Truthfully, the PvE server serves several purposes. I mainly use it as a test bed since it is so easy to earn gold and get ships that I just can't afford on the PvP server. It enables you to practice manual sailing without the threat of getting ganked. It allows you to peacefully sail to different ports while admiring the ship models and the scenery. Also since there is no conflict between players everyone there is unbelievably helpful no matter what nation they sail for. There is ZERO toxicity in any chat. It is actually a pleasant place to sail. 

It's true that there really is no point or end game to the PvE server but it provides a great place to test different aspects of the game and also how differently each ship handles in battle instances without risk of losing the ship that you are trying to learn.

 

Or it's just for carebears. lol

Edited August 4, 2017 by The Wren

[The Wren]

Just now, Peter Goldman said:

Good for testing was duel room, but they removed it.

Yup

 

[Barbancourt]

Yeah, PVE server can be a good testing ground and lets you enjoy some different scenery.  I had characters in 3 different nations on the pre-Wipe servers, so I could switch all the time and get different scenery.  There wasn't a whole lot else to do in NA pre-Wipe.   

I haven't found much purpose to the PVE game in Naval Action, though.  In Elite:Dangerous I am a 100% PVE player because I enjoy running the missions, working the BGS, updating market data, and exploring the galaxy, and also because I just don't really enjoy the combat game in Elite.  I'm always visiting new star systems and outposts in Elite - they are basically infinite.  In Naval Action the PVE is empty and the combat is much more fun, with a clan/group, though PVE combat always gets boring fast. 

 

[Liq]

Some players prefer enjoying the experience of the game in a non-competetive environment, NavalAction&Chill, sail the ships you want, shoot the stuff you want, cap what you want, without the omnipresent fear of losing your stuff to some pesky pirates. Can't blame them, personal preference.

[Sir Texas Sir]

I really did like the PvE zone in the GULF concept the devs came up with and wished they had merged it.  IF the guys wanted a safe zone than they would have it.  No one promised them the whole map.   Though I did recently logged on to set up all my chars.  Never know when you might need them. Did the same with EU server too.

[Jean Ribault]

 

16 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

I really did like the PvE zone in the GULF concept the devs came up with and wished they had merged it.  IF the guys wanted a safe zone than they would have it.  No one promised them the whole map.   Though I did recently logged on to set up all my chars.  Never know when you might need them. Did the same with EU server too.

 

Yeah me too.

It was nice actually being able to sail trouble free and see the scenery without hassle.  Devs made a beautiful world for sure.  For pve activity though I still prefer a little fire under your ass in the pvp world though, makes even pve more fun.

[Sir Texas Sir]

I figured I'll pop in and sale my labor hours to some one and than buy some stuff to set up a ship or two just in case I want to go there when GLOBAL is down or if I want to test something.

[AngryPanCake]

In a few words, the PvE server is a peaceful NA sandbox.

It is meant for a completely different group of players that have a different play style and different goals than the majority of the PvP players.

To answer your questions:

3 hours ago, Jean Ribault said:

My question is:  (1) what is the goal of this server, or (2) your character on it?  Or, what should the goal be?  I don't really know what the point of it is, or if it's just to hone your skills.  Anyone have any input?

1- The goal is to provide a peaceful game environment for players that are not interested in PvP while enjoying the "MMO" experience by interacting with other players. At the same time, enjoy this great game with its beautiful age of sail ships of all types and sizes.

2- The goal of one's character depends on each individual player. As some PvP players above have said, they come to the PvE server to test different aspects of the game without interference. Others enjoy trading, building commercial empires, craft custom ships and produce resources they use themselves or sell to other players.

Another goal/reason to play on the PvE server is to fight in a ship you crafted on your own terms, not forced into battle by another player. Also play co-op combat missions with friends or often with strangers and have great fun in a very laid back environment.

I am hoping that once the Devs have taken care of the PvP mechanics, they will work on adding more content to the PvE sever and customize it more towards PvE game play.

 

Edited August 5, 2017 by AngryPanCake

[HarryButpain]

I think as soon as pve players can sail their 1st rates to port battles to fight a fleet of AI everything will be honky-dory on pve server.. I was playing swotor in a big competitve clan for a while.. Those end-game pve 'raids' can really be quite challenging, like when everyone expects you to know the perfect skill combination in any situation and so on.. I think if pve port battles would resemble something like those pve 'raids' from world of warcraft or swotor, the pve players will probably be quite happy! Yes/No? 

Edited August 5, 2017 by HarryButpain

[The Wren]

3 hours ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

I figured I'll pop in and sale my labor hours to some one and than buy some stuff to set up a ship or two just in case I want to go there when GLOBAL is down or if I want to test something.

I've got plenty of ships and gold. You are more than welcome to outfit yourself with whatever equipment you may need.

 

Edited August 5, 2017 by The Wren

[Vizzini]

Wish it could be used for all new players to learn on and then if they wished they could take their xp ( and only that ) with them to the PVP server if they so wanted. Likewise players who don't enjoy the PVP servers could do so in the opposite direction

 

but as others have eloquently put, it's a peaceful place in which to play the game with less drama and hassles

[AngryPanCake]

15 hours ago, Hodo said:

It should be handled like Life is Feudal is handling it.  

You go up to the ferryman in LiF, and use a token to be transported to the mainland.  You lose all of the items except the starter items and you go to the mainland with your skills intact.   

The same could be done here.  You go to the admiralty store and use your transport mark (1 per character), and leave for the open seas.   Where you will choose which server you want to go to, and your XP will be sent there as a redeemable on login.   

The two PVP servers should be renamed to PVP-Global, and PVP-Limited.

There will be descriptions below the servers, with current population numbers.  They will tell you the differences between them.  How Global will have no restrictions on when port battles can happen or PVP, yet Limited will have a 5 hour Port Battle limitation.  

 

That is not a bad idea at all...for people interested in PvP as long as it is not treated solely as a spring board to the PvP server.

What I mean by that is: the PvE sever should not remain as is with just copy/paste mechanics/content from the PvP server, but instead adding specific things to it, new PvE geared content, PvE specific mechanics, PvE specific trade, PvE missions/duels and even as stated above Coop PB's against AI PB fleets and so on.

In my opinion, the PvE server has a great potential.

 

[AngryPanCake]

16 hours ago, Hodo said:

I used it to grind up to rank 4 when I was starting.  I think it should be used as a noob zone server.  With a VERY limited region, like the rookie zone used to be.  

However, that I don't like at all. It is not fair that PvP players should dictate what the PvE server should be!

To me, this is two thumbs down.

Edited August 5, 2017 by AngryPanCake

[AngryPanCake]

PS: One of the many reasons I play NA (on the PvE server): After several days at sea, holds full of trade goods from a carefully planned trade run, standing by the helm, admiring my home port and looking forward to the projected profits and expansion of my trade empire.

 

Edited August 5, 2017 by AngryPanCake

[Justme]

9 hours ago, AngryPanCake said:

PS: One of the many reasons I play NA (on the PvE server): After several days at sea, holds full of trade goods from a carefully planned trade run, standing by the helm, admiring my home port and looking forward to the projected profits and expansion of my trade empire.

 

Nothing like a false sense of accomplishment from 0 risk gameplay.Dont break your arm from patting yourself on the back to hard.

PVE is a 0 risk 0 reward time sink server that requires no real effort to do well in. There is no purpose to it other than to detract from the game as a whole by being a waste of resources by being populated by less than 10 percent of the player base.

 

[Liq]

32 minutes ago, Justme said:

Nothing like a false sense of accomplishment from 0 risk gameplay.Dont break your arm from patting yourself on the back to hard.

PVE is a 0 risk 0 reward time sink server that requires no real effort to do well in. There is no purpose to it other than to detract from the game as a whole by being a waste of resources by being populated by less than 10 percent of the player base.

 

Games are supposed to be fun. YOU get to enjoy that fun by accomplishing something in a pvp environment. Some just prefer having it chilled.
By your logic, all singleplayer AAA games are pointless and a waste of money. If someone is enjoying what he's doing, why not let him have his fun?

[AngryPanCake]

46 minutes ago, Justme said:

Nothing like a false sense of accomplishment from 0 risk gameplay.Dont break your arm from patting yourself on the back to hard.

PVE is a 0 risk 0 reward time sink server that requires no real effort to do well in. There is no purpose to it other than to detract from the game as a whole by being a waste of resources by being populated by less than 10 percent of the player base.

 

I think it's "just you"...

[Justme]

13 minutes ago, Liquicity said:

Games are supposed to be fun. YOU get to enjoy that fun by accomplishing something in a pvp environment. Some just prefer having it chilled.
By your logic, all singleplayer AAA games are pointless and a waste of money. If someone is enjoying what he's doing, why not let him have his fun?

Most AAA games have risk of loss, plot/story, something to compell the player to continue.

There is 0 risk in PVE server gameplay, fighting brain dead AI and trade runs that anyone that walks by confuses for a screen saver does not compelling gameplay make.

 

[Justme]

2 minutes ago, AngryPanCake said:

I think it's "just you"...

Given the abysmal numbers on PVE server, it's obvious it's not.

[AngryPanCake]

17 minutes ago, Liquicity said:

Games are supposed to be fun. YOU get to enjoy that fun by accomplishing something in a pvp environment. Some just prefer having it chilled.
By your logic, all singleplayer AAA games are pointless and a waste of money. If someone is enjoying what he's doing, why not let him have his fun?

Speaking in a very general way, it is because some people are absolutely incapable of it. They have no ability to develop any type of understanding that not everyone thinks or does things differently than they do.

They obviously exhibits significant antagonism, characterized by grandiosity or feelings of entitlement as well as self-centeredness, firmly holding to the belief that they are better than and condescending toward others.

They exhibit an impairment in interpersonal functioning with a total lack of empathy and Impaired ability to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others; excessively attuned to reactions of others, but only if perceived as relevant to their dysfunctional ego.

[AngryPanCake]

19 minutes ago, Justme said:

Given the abysmal numbers on PVE server, it's obvious it's not.

What was I thinking! of course it is not you, it's always somebody else!