Christendom Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) @admin @Ink Would either of you be able to clarify a bit more on how you investigated and determined the players that they were alts? This appears, at least to my knowledge, the first time any punishment has been dished out for alts interfering in port battles. There have been quite a number of threads over the past year of alts meddling and accusations thrown about. I'm curious as to why and how you determined that this recent batch would finally get the gavel of justice. In the past it seems you would just check and see what previous characters that alt might have been and if there were any prior tribunals. Seems a bit vauge. I'm not trying to start any drama and don't take this as me supporting what happened - I don't. I am simply curious to find out how and what we need to do to setup the next alt tribunal (we already have problems of a sort on GLOBAL) the best way to get results. I think everyone can agree that alts messing with PBs and hostility is a pretty big thing right now. PS - not sure where to put this topic, move if needed. Edited June 26, 2017 by Christendom 6
Augustus Charles Hobart H Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) Ironically the mechanic admin announced for the future prevention of splitting up an arraigned PB fleet is one LV (among other people) has been clamoring for for moths Edited June 26, 2017 by Augustus Charles Hobart H 1
Salty Dog. Posted June 26, 2017 Posted June 26, 2017 Now if we could just limit port battle entry to those in the port battle fleet.... 2
Kloothommel Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 What i am curious about: What happens to their main/other accounts? Warnings? 3
troody Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Cornelis Tromp said: What i am curious about: What happens to their main/other accounts? Warnings? indeed! its not the alt-account that cause bad effects, its the player behind! if u really wanna make ppl feel consequences u have to ban and wipe their main accounts! the pirates behind these 3x 2weeks-banned-alts are laughing their ass of due to these consequences... Edited June 27, 2017 by troody 3
Guest Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, Cornelis Tromp said: What i am curious about: What happens to their main/other accounts? Warnings? Sure hope the 2-week ban (+/- reset) applies to the main account. A 2 week ban on an alt account is a joke, as is the reset since the alt was only rank 2 anyways.
Guest Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 As for the OP, isn't it far better if the devs don't tell us how they conduct their investigation so that people have a harder time hiding their main-alt linkages?
Sir Texas Sir Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Aegir said: As for the OP, isn't it far better if the devs don't tell us how they conduct their investigation so that people have a harder time hiding their main-alt linkages? Yah I kinda don't think we should know. Though for those that actually have done some digging around in the client side file you know you can find most of your battle chat logs and other logs in your files. They just need to look at this stuff and get info along to what they have on the server side logs. I have my battle chat logs all the way back to when I first started. Though it only updates after you log out of game and it's only games played on that computer that is saved client side. I'm sure the server side logs are every thing. 2 hours ago, Otto Kohl said: I think its not a problem for devs to check IP adress and deliver punishment to main accounts too. The problem with that is multi family house holds and places where they might be sharing IP address with a large population like college or schools. We did this a long time ago with some one and found out we lost about 50 other players with he IP band that where all from the same very large college that was in the area of the player. So we had to lift the ban and just ban the player and than find out who his alts where and ban them too. Though for that we just matched up email addresses as he used the same for all accounts. Since this game is based off steam accounts that is a little harder too do. Though I think they need to be a bit harsher on the punishment when they find these guys abusing the system. Oh and for the OP this isn't the first time they punished folks as I seen in the past they have punished others, but the problem is a lot of folks make accusations with little to no proof. Get that proof. Get those Screen shots and logs. Than post them and you will see more cases get resolved. If Devs keep a strong firm hammer on exploiters and abusers of the system you will see it happen less.
Liq Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 Dunno but I feel like there will be a lot of salt if people not in the PB group are not going to be able to join a PB
monk33y Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) I'm more interested in receiving a public apology from the Danish captains who blamed sorry and pirates with no proof, and not for the first time! The action taken against DANISH characters for green on green and blocking a port battle in its self removes all blame from the pirates. Secondly, I'm also looking for information from the Devs/mods to confirm what future actions will be taken against players making cheating/exploits claims while giving no evidence! (currently certain clans are being blamed for almost everything). I'd like to see a future punishments for captains who keep making factless claims. I look forward to seeing how the development team protect captains from factless claims, where has "innercent until proven guilty" gone!! **edit** to the number of Danish captains who pm'd me Durring this whole saga, your abuse has been reported. (again I look forward to seeing the action taken) Edited June 27, 2017 by monk33y
Christendom Posted June 27, 2017 Author Posted June 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Cornelis Tromp said: What i am curious about: What happens to their main/other accounts? Warnings? Also a good question 1
troody Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Liquicity said: Dunno but I feel like there will be a lot of salt if people not in the PB group are not going to be able to join a PB indeed, that could happen. but first, blame the ppl who created these circumstances that made a change necessary also things can be managed before a PB. an open and transparent leadership of a nation that tries to involve everybody can help as well. PB are RvR - a Nations Responsibility - so personal interests have to stand back.
Hodo Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 For me I was always a fan of the public shaming that Darkfall Online had. They had the "BANHAMMER" thread which was controlled by the developers and they would post the character names of all of those who were banned. 3
Gizbo Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 name and shame would be nice but wondering how long before this thread becomes toxic like all others
Tomms123 Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 6 hours ago, monk33y said: -Snip- Here is the rule on it, discussion on what exactly has been done won't be revealed as discussing of moderation is not allowed. If you see it happen report and it will be handled. That applies both in game and on the forum. Now back on topic
[SORRY] Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 SORRY in our 556 confirmed PB got tagged /dragged into battle from alts no less then 30 times, all time it was mass reported, nothing ever happened.
CaptVonGunn Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 I just find it funny in a way. This is a early release Alpha game... The ENTIRE point is to find exploits and bugs so the Devs can fix or fill them. But all every one does is cry in the tribunal and demand justice. Because they lost some Pixels... ... Hell most games you get a reward for proving a repeatable exploit or bug... Not here... 2
Tomms123 Posted June 28, 2017 Posted June 28, 2017 15 hours ago, CaptVonGunn said: I just find it funny in a way. This is a early release Alpha game... The ENTIRE point is to find exploits and bugs so the Devs can fix or fill them. But all every one does is cry in the tribunal and demand justice. Because they lost some Pixels... ... Hell most games you get a reward for proving a repeatable exploit or bug... Not here... Well, you do that here too, but only if you follow the proper chains which are to be found in the thread which states the rules.
CaptVonGunn Posted June 28, 2017 Posted June 28, 2017 7 hours ago, Tomms123 said: Well, you do that here too, but only if you follow the proper chains which are to be found in the thread which states the rules. Which is a seprate and real problem... Finding the info is like a job in this game
Guest Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) On 6/27/2017 at 9:24 AM, Aegir said: Sure hope the 2-week ban (+/- reset) applies to the main account. A 2 week ban on an alt account is a joke, as is the reset since the alt was only rank 2 anyways. Looks like I can now answer my own question. V 30 minutes ago, Sepp Stuart said: I don't care about a 2 weeks banned danish alt! But its allways good to have a sverige alt in a honorable clan with a verification on sverige ts.! Thx btw for that!✌️ ... Disappointing, devs. Very disappointing. And see how little it does to dissuade it. It's time to bring out the hammer. Edited June 29, 2017 by Guest
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