+ Armor % refits Question

[Kogoon]

Hi Gents,

I have stumbeld across a glitch in the matrix.

I have a Agamemnon Live Oak/White Oak , Base Armor HP is 6361.

Now I equip Bow Figure Elephant with +10% Base Armor HP and also Planking (4-5) +15% Armor HP.

Normaly I would have     ((6361*1,1+6361*1,15)-6361)= 7951 HP

BUT it seems that only my planking with +15% is working and overwriting the Elephants +10%, so that I have in fact only 7236 HP. Thats not even +15% !

I thought that skillbooks and refits witch increase armor are not compatible with each other but my college has the same problem and he has equipt Elephant and Bridgetown Refit which should give him ~20% Bonus but he has also only 7236 HP.

Another friend has Floating Battery +20% and Elephant +10% but also gets only 7236 HP.

Is that how its intended to work or is it a bug ?

 

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Edited June 23, 2017 by Kogoon

[Liq]

According to API the agamemnon's base HP is 6030. yours is probably after getting the wood bonusses. Afaik, upgrade bonusses are based on the basic ship value, not counting the wood.

[Sir Texas Sir]

Armor HP and Thickness both have a cap of 20%.  This includes your wood types in your build along with any mods you have.   You basicly over stacked your mods so that a lot of that HP is not being used.   

LO/WO is 15%, +Elephant +10%, + planking 15% = 40% so your double over the cap of 20%. 

[Hodo]

Yeah you are only getting 13.75% increase.

But seeing as you have 6030hp.  (according to the wiki base HP for armor.)

20% over that is 7236hp   Which is still below what it should be.

 

[Kogoon]

Thank you guys for the quick answer!

[Sir Texas Sir]

4 minutes ago, Hodo said:

Yeah you are only getting 13.75% increase.

But seeing as you have 6030hp.  (according to the wiki base HP for armor.)

20% over that is 7236hp   Which is still below what it should be.

 

You are correct going off my Agamemnon which is Teak/WO but this shows you the base is 6030.  We tested and it is a 20% cap on HP and Armor thickness.   So the max HP you can get for the ship is 7236 and the max thickness one can get depending on wood type of the build is 81.6.  As you can see I"m close to that thickness max out for my ship.

[Hodo]

6 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

You are correct going off my Agamemnon which is Teak/WO but this shows you the base is 6030.  We tested and it is a 20% cap on HP and Armor thickness.   So the max HP you can get for the ship is 7236 and the max thickness one can get depending on wood type of the build is 81.6.  As you can see I"m close to that thickness max out for my ship.

How is that 3rd Rate?  I always liked the 3rd rate over the Ballona, just because it is a generic 3rd rate.  

[Sir Texas Sir]

10 minutes ago, Hodo said:

How is that 3rd Rate?  I always liked the 3rd rate over the Ballona, just because it is a generic 3rd rate.  

I liked the 3rd as a poor mans SOL.  She has been great for grinding fleets/missions to make  money.  Can take a licking and keep on ticking.  She's basically a sluggish Aggy. I have two slots and about to have the third open on here though she's prob going to get retired to some new player in clan that hasn't leveled up all the way.  Since I'm in one of them....BIG BOYS now.

[Hodo]

3 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

I liked the 3rd as a poor mans SOL.  She has been great for grinding fleets/missions to make  money.  Can take a licking and keep on ticking.  She's basically a sluggish Aggy. I have two slots and about to have the third open on here though she's prob going to get retired to some new player in clan that hasn't leveled up all the way.  Since I'm in one of them....BIG BOYS now.

The funny thing is it looks like it can turn as well as a Endymion or a Trincomalee.  

With some tweaking to the build it could be a decent hunting 3rd rate.  

To bad I dont use anything that big.  

[Sir Texas Sir]

3 minutes ago, Hodo said:

The funny thing is it looks like it can turn as well as a Endymion or a Trincomalee.  

With some tweaking to the build it could be a decent hunting 3rd rate.  

To bad I dont use anything that big.  

My aggy is up to 12.6 with a turn of 2.8 so they have close stats so you could get it up to around that.  I have had fun in it in the past when I was at that level of crew.   I just want my Niagara back and I'll be happy.  Than again we got almost all the filthy Nats out of the shallows so prob wouldn't be much hunting in those waters.  So maybe I"ll be able to get it later through these events and such.