Merijn van Roij Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) There is currently no place for the EU server where people not involved in inner diplomatic circles can know the newest diplomatic developments, so I thought I just start this thread until something better will be set up. As you will see, its pratically a copy of the Global servers thread by Teutonic. I have no connections or information channels yet since Im pretty new to the game, so please inform me here or ingame about any wrong information or new developments. I will try to get more involved going forward, but if somebody already good connected wants to take over this thread, he or she is very welcome! Altough I know there are already agreements, I've set default War? until I get otherwise notified. If there are crucial specifications to the respective agreement, please inform me so that I can clarify the description. I will try to update this thread accordingly as regularly as I can. Also, please feel free discuss the feasability of the following format! As I said its just copy and pasted. Format will be as follows:War -- A significant proportion of clans (either per number or size) has officially declared war against the other nation, with a clear wargoal (f.e. to take certain ports).Hostile -- There hasn't been any official statements/declarations of war, but there are frequent attacks and conquests. Neutral -- There are neither (regular) hostilities, nor any additional agreements made.Agreements -- Trade agreements, NAPs, NIPs, Port Agreements, or other limited agreements will define this slot. Description will specify the agreements content.Alliance -- An Alliance is made when a significant proportion of clans (either per number or size) within a nation are in agreement. Greyed Out -- means there is additional confirmation needed. Clans Agreements: If a Clan wishes to have agreements be made public, they may do so, otherwise nothing is official. Ideally, each agreement-info-comment is described by the respective nations, clans and specifications involved. See the SAPA-post. I'll give a short description á la Format above and will then link your comment so anybody interested can look at the details of different involved parties, etc. Maybe this way we can pass by the problem, that diplomacy is essentially Clan-based. Politics/Diplomacy United States of America Verenigde-Provincien : Neutral Espana: SAPA[c] France: War? Great Britain: War? Denmark-Norge: Hostile Sverige: Neutral Pirates: SAPA[c] Verenigde-Provincien United States: Neutral Espana: Hostile France: Neutral Great Britain: Trade Denmark-Norge: Hostile Sverige: Neutral Pirates: Hostile Espana Verenigde-Provincien: Hostile United States: SAPA[c] France: Neutral Great Britain: Hostile Denmark-Norge: Hostile Sverige: Neutral Pirates: SAPA[c] France Verenigde-Provincien: Hostile Espana: Neutral United States: War? Great Britain: War? Denmark-Norge: Hostile Sverige: War Pirates: War? Great Britain Verenigde-Provincien: Trade Espana: Hostile France: War? United States: War? Denmark-Norge: Hostile Sverige: Hostile Pirates: War? Denmark-Norge Verenigde-Provincien: Hostile Espana: Hostile France: Hostile Great Britain: Hostile United States: Hostile Sverige: Hostile Pirates: Hostile Sverige Verenigde-Provincien: Neutral Espana: Neutral France: War Great Britain: Hostile Denmark-Norge: Hostile United States: Neutral Pirates: Neutral Pirates Verenigde-Provincien : Hostile Espana: SAPA[c] France: Hostile Great Britain: Hostile Denmark-Norge: Hostile Sverige: Hostile United States: SAPA[c] Regards! Merijn Van Roij Edited June 12, 2017 by Merijn van Roij 4
Corona Lisa Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) Pirates - Spain - US are allied I think Danes and GB also have some kind of agreements, not too sure about that tho Edited June 10, 2017 by Jon Snow lets go 1
Guest Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) From what I've read/heard thus far. US - Spain : Alliance Pirates - US : Alliance Pirates - Spain : Alliance Sweden - Denmark : Non-Aggression/Neutral (RvR only) Sweden - France : War (Wargoals achieved, but haven't seen any peace declaration yet....so....?) Need those with more official knowledge to clarify/confirm, but at least it serves as a query. Edited June 10, 2017 by Guest
Merijn van Roij Posted June 10, 2017 Author Posted June 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, Aegir said: Sweden - Denmark : Non-Aggression/Neutral So not really Non Aggression Pact, but more like regular Peace?
elite92 Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jon Snow lets go said: Pirates - Spain - US are allied I think Danes and GB also have some kind of agreements, not too sure about that tho sure... go tell clan OFF(pirates) that steal us(spain) to conni.... and sorry also gank us. maybe there is a an alliance between 2 clan leaders for port battles stuff but not at all between nations 2
Guest Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, Merijn van Roij said: So not really Non Aggression Pact, but more like regular Peace? 3 minutes ago, Cornelis Tromp said: Denmark- Sweden: It's Complicated
Kloothommel Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Stilgar said: NA - Naval Alliance ?! We might get a north-south alliance split this time XD 2
Jack Frost Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 I think only 3 pirate clans are allied to spain and USA, all others still do as they wish. Yarr!! 2
Anolytic Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) Denmark-Norge Verenigde-Provincien: War Espana: War France: War Great Britain: War United States: War Sverige: War Pirates: War Danmark-Norge only has interests. Sometimes those interests include shared interests with some of our enemies. Currently any agreements that we make are simple trades-something in exchange for something in return-and restricted in time, location and extent. All agreements are strictly temporary and should not affect open world conflict. Edited June 10, 2017 by Anolytic 11
Guest Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Merijn van Roij said: So not really Non Aggression Pact, but more like regular Peace? More like I cap your ass on the high seas but if you get to port I'll refrain from burning down your home...
Merijn van Roij Posted June 10, 2017 Author Posted June 10, 2017 38 minutes ago, Jack Frost said: I think only 3 pirate clans are allied to spain and USA, all others still do as they wish. Yarr!! I just linked the ALLIANCE statement to the explanatory comment by Knobby, so that people can see which clans are involved in the alliance.
Jones el Tuerto Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 You talk as pirates as a nation but those alliances of pirates are made by one or two clans the biggest we have. There are more pirates than this clans, we have a lot of small clans and people with no clan.
Guest Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jones el Tuerto said: You talk as pirates as a nation but those alliances of pirates are made by one or two clans the biggest we have. There are more pirates than this clans, we have a lot of small clans and people with no clan. So does everyone else, but the largest ones are the only ones that matter.. Only diff between pirates and nations is that pirates can attack eachother..
Merijn van Roij Posted June 10, 2017 Author Posted June 10, 2017 @Jones el Tuerto As long as there are no other official agreements, I would just assume pirates to be hostile. So since there is a clear specification in the respective comment it should be clear for anyone who is involved in the alliance and who not. This list obviously does not work as guarantee that nobody will attack you in a given nations territory, its just so everybody can judge the situation better (or so i assume) and also for people to get the chance to act according to their nations politics if they want to do that. 1
Pablo Frias Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Anolytic said: Denmark-Norge Verenigde-Provincien: War Espana: War France: War Great Britain: War United States: War Sverige: War Pirates: War Danmark-Norge only has interests. Sometimes those interests include shared interests with some of our enemies. Currently any agreements that we make are simple trades-something in exchange for something in return-and restricted in time, location and extent. All agreements are strictly temporary and should not affect open world conflict. I think that's the funniest diplomatic position for sure 3
ScipioTortuga Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 French Verenigde provincien are still neutral as far as I know 1
Ketunpoika Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 3 hours ago, ScipioTortuga said: French Verenigde provincien are still neutral as far as I know Thats great news to Dutch players 1
Stilgar Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Ketunpoika said: Thats great news to Dutch players As it is for the French.
Aphilas Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 On 2017-06-10 at 4:03 PM, Bearwall said: So does everyone else, but the largest ones are the only ones that matter.. Only diff between pirates and nations is that pirates can attack eachother.. Well, US got beaten in West End PB today. So I think in their case, any pirates matter. 2
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