Can someone explain rules of engagement pls ?

[Zooloo]

I don't see anything about it in patch notes so i didnt expect any change and it seems we have 5 min to join battles now, which caused me to loose a surprise to a cutter army gank where a surprise joined later in battle, and now i lost a frig to a squad who was able to exit a battle and join my battle despite the "no join" timer.

 

I'm quite pissed off with loosing ships (and going back to cutter farming weeehee) to a ROE i cant understand so please can someone explain it ?

 

I do like most of the patch but beeing forced back to cutter with these types of engagements is quite frustrating.

[Liq]

You can avoid the 5 min timer with the signaling perk (signaling rules apply)

[Zooloo]

Thanks, but can you explain the regular ROE and precise the signaling rules please ?

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

Join timers are extended. 

All in circle will be drawn into battle.

Signaling works a bit different - relates only to the faction/side of the perk users - but it can effectively be used by both sides ( still have to run some definitive tests on it ).

Cannot rejoin a battle after exiting a battle. I did test it and shows Battle closed for me.

 

[Zooloo]

7 minutes ago, The Red Duke said:

Join timers are extended. 

All in circle will be drawn into battle.

Signaling works a bit different - relates only to the faction/side of the perk users - but it can effectively be used by both sides ( still have to run some definitive tests on it ).

Cannot rejoin a battle after exiting a battle. I did test it and shows Battle closed for me.

 

It's still not very clear, what is the timer exactly, can someone exit a port and join battle, can players out of sight range still join battle, Jon Snow let's go can you confirm your squad exited the battle and joined mine ?

If you can also give details on signaling rules i'd be glad please. I know it's supposed to let players enter until BR is balanced but i lack details. Does it mean a 180 vs 190 BR battle will let a surprise, for example, enter to help the 180 side and imbalance the fight ?

Edited May 28, 2017 by Zooloo

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

1 minute ago, Zooloo said:

can someone exit a port and join battle, can players out of sight range still join battle

yes, timer to join allows this under correct circumstances

[Zooloo]

Ok, and the timer is 5 min ?

What about signaling does anyone know how it works exactly ?

[Liq]

Signaling (if the one attacked or attacking has it) lets the weaker side join until the BR is evened out. For about 10 min afaik.

So if you tag a surp in your surp it will be 140 v 140 BR and it will say BR reached for both sides so its basically closed

Edited May 28, 2017 by Liquicity

[Vernon Merrill]

Just to add... if you tag a LGV in surprise, 140 I think vs. 110, nothing over 30 BR can join on the LGV side.  

Thats if signaling is present.  

[Zooloo]

ok thank you guys, i'll use signaling !

[Vernon Merrill]

Oh, one more thing.  I'm 99% sure it's based on the attacker, if both people have the perk.  

[Corona Lisa]

2 hours ago, Zooloo said:

It's still not very clear, what is the timer exactly, can someone exit a port and join battle, can players out of sight range still join battle, Jon Snow let's go can you confirm your squad exited the battle and joined mine ?

Every fight without signaling is open for 5 mins for both sides without any BR restrictions AFAIK.