shaeberle84 Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 4 hours ago, TheLoneWolf said: It is the devs game and they are free to do as they please but so am I. Going back to pvp2 to enjoy it while it lasts. Thank you to the devs for their efforts. Same with me. Under the new system, a non-hardcore player without ALTs will never sail a first rate. Maybe this is the ways the devs want it, but it is very frustrating. I can enjoy all the content in WoW playing like 7 hours a week. If i want to enjoy the NA high end content it is more like 7 hours a say.
shaeberle84 Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, admin said: ну на лайве я точно знаю что на лафеты всегда был спрос позволяющий зарабатывать миллионы Well on the live I know for sure that the carriage always had a demand allowing you to earn millions???
TheLoneWolf Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 1 minute ago, jodgi said: People with alts will always have an advantage in an eco game. EVE is "pay to win" in that regard as well, right? Don't you have to pretend that the alts guy is really several individual players for balancing purposes? Why pretend. I do not. Forget balancing. Alts make you a rich player and give you an advantage in getting more resources, gold, marks, or being at more places at the same time. In any event, logging off for the night and do not want to get off topic.
TheLoneWolf Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 Just now, shaeberle84 said: Well on the live I know for sure that the carriage always had a demand allowing you to earn millions??? Not anymore, they require very few labor hours now...
Grundgemunkey Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, TheLoneWolf said: People can be very creative. All you have to do is alternate the alts between players. Almost impossible to prove or catch. It is a reality that we need to deal with. The problem with your solution is that richer players will get richer and poor will stay poor. Rich will factor price in their ship plus a hefty profit and resell ships to poor players. A bit like real life I guess. its cheating though the fact you acknolwedge ... by saying that you have to be creative ,, and saying its almost impossible to prove .... well we can prove you do it by your own admission .. therefore why should we listen to any ideas or input you post on the forum .... your opinions are based on the fact that you have 4 alts ..therefore become invalid 2
TheLoneWolf Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Grundgemunkey said: its cheating though the fact you acknolwedge ... by saying that you have to be creative ,, and saying its almost impossible to prove .... well we can prove you do it by your own admission .. therefore why should we listen to any ideas or input you post on the forum .... your opinions are based on the fact that you have 4 alts ..therefore become invalid I am being honest about it. What do you think other people with alts will do. Seriously now let's be realistic shall we. If I am caught then so be it. I am talking about it as many of these changes were introduced to reduce the effect of alts. I merely am pointing out the fact that we just displaced the problem.
Fellvred Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 One (probably unpopular) fix would be to have ships drop differing types of pvp marks depending on the ship destroyed. 6/7th rates drop 'small' pvp marks - used for 5th rate permits 4/5th rates drop 'medium' pvp marks - used for 3rd/4th rate permits 1-3rd rates drop 'large' pvp marks - used for 1st/2nd rate permits but I'm not sure we need even more types of currency atm
Grundgemunkey Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Fellvred said: One (probably unpopular) fix would be to have ships drop differing types of pvp marks depending on the ship destroyed. 6/7th rates drop 'small' pvp marks - used for 5th rate permits 4/5th rates drop 'medium' pvp marks - used for 3rd/4th rate permits 1-3rd rates drop 'large' pvp marks - used for 1st/2nd rate permits but I'm not sure we need even more types of currency atm it will hard enough to get pvp marks as it is ... never mind find someone sailing the right type of ship that drops the marks you want
NavalActionPlayer Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, TheLoneWolf said: Expect pre-arranged port swapping pbs between nations to get the conquests marks. This is certain to happen between 'informal allies'. If there were a formal Alliance system then this port swapping for marks etc would be less likely.....ahh....err....yes, well....um.
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 Need to test those values in live, not in testbed. Hard to have a perception of the true value at the moment.
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