Hotfix 1 for testbed patch 9.99

[Major General La Fayette]

2 minutes ago, SoulPYTHON said:

I did not know that one basic skill as in sawing planks made u learn all the other skills a carpenter needs to learn to become a better one, if it were the case we would've been all master carpenters by now (the ones that sawed some planks in their lives)

Did I said you can learn the other skills by sawing planks ? I said it makes you a better carpenter, other tasks like buidling carriages etc... also makes you a better naval carpenter.

Edited April 21, 2017 by Major General La Fayette

[JobaSet]

43 minutes ago, admin said:

We considered it strange that you can learn to craft a First rate ship of the line by sawing planks 
True fact if you can not cut a Plank to the right size needed, I don't want you to build my home. Just saying

+ when you place ships to auction they don't take your slots.  You have got to get it made 1st that will take a slot.  Also what the limit of Ships you can have up for sale at one time. Also need to address the lack of buy and sell order you can have at one time. Now this can be a money sink also I don't care but will be a major problem Sooner than later. Crafters have money to burn
current limit of 20 is under review ( I know, why not even worth discussing was a mute point ) and we plan to add a dry dock consumable in the future that will increase your slots. but it will be paid (as dlc) I have no idea what this could mean, but it don't sound good any time you use DLC and the word paid in same sentence is bad. as ship are the most expensive database wise. We don't limit it their numbers because we want to make your life harder. we limit because they eat server capacity. The wipe will help a lot with the database as you have thousands if not 10s of thousands of unused ships on file from people that don't play anymore.  But you know this is not 1989 right,  you need to upgrade that 386 /w  32 bit processor. At best you can should use a math coprocessor in it( yea i just showed my age lol)  

 

 

Edited April 21, 2017 by JobaSet

[admin]

14 minutes ago, JobaSet said:

The wipe will help a lot with the database as you have thousands if not 10s of thousands of unused ships on file from people that don't play anymore.  But you know this is not 1989 right,  you need to upgrade that 386 /w  32 bit processor. At best you can should use a math coprocessor in it( yea i just showed my age lol)  

Please do not patronize us by such  comments
Ships are expensive to maintain as they are unique for every player. Wipe does not solve any problems as players will come and create new ships. Perhaps you know some unique way to improve db handling of millions of items 110,000 accounts*40 ships you request (and thats only ships). In this case we are sure that you will make billions (no joking here) by selling you company to AWS or oracle or maybe by going public

[JobaSet]

7 minutes ago, admin said:

Please do not patronize us by such  comments Come on you know it was funny
Ships are expensive to maintain as they are unique for every player. Wipe does not solve any problems as players will come and create new ships. Perhaps you know some unique way to improve db handling of millions of items 110,000 accounts*40 ships you request (and thats only ships). In this case we are sure that you will make billions (no joking here) by selling you company to AWS or oracle or maybe by going public

Yes, I know your problems all to well. That is why I can poke fun at you some.  Been there done that and didn't even get a tshirt.

• I can tell you on test server when I spent 2.25 million on slots it took 10 mins for my cash to go away. So that makes 2 accounts that this has happened on, so something not right. 

[Remus]

1 hour ago, JobaSet said:

No Crafting XP for anything but ships.

44 minutes ago, admin said:

We considered it strange that you can learn to craft a First rate ship of the line by sawing planks

Well spotted JobaSet. I had not got that far. This makes ship seeding in shops more important than I had realsied.

I expect most players who craft have been dismayed how cheap NPC-made ships are and that player-made ships offers no advantages. All ships up to at least Constitution appear to be widely available (though I haven't checked wood and trim) which suggests there won't be much of a market for player-made ships below that level, but I consoled myself with the thought that the top end of the market - RvR ships - would remain entirely player made. Shipbuilders would make line of battle ships (and restricteds like Heavy Rattlesnake if the BP is made available), and would-be shipbuilders would gain xp by making ship components and repairs to give them income during their apprenticeship.

What will the apprentice shipwright do now though? Apart from 3 ships right at the beginning, I have sold every single ship I have made on PvP1 (except those I made for myself), all for a healthy profit - because I could offer quality which NPCs could (or did) not. I think I have used every single labour hour I've generated since starting the game, usually with some perk or other to increase supply or reduce consumption, and I am now level 35 with every BP unlocked up to 3rd Rate.

But now you appear to be encouraging new players down the TLynx rinse and repeat path. Quite how this makes them better able to build a first rate than sawing frame timbers, planks and masts. making rigging, carriages, cables furnishings and ballast, I really cannot fathom.

[finchaser12]

So when is the actual wipe and release of the game going to happen because i thought it was supposed to be by the 20th of april ?

[JobaSet]

17 minutes ago, Remus said:

Well spotted JobaSet. I had not got that far. This makes ship seeding in shops more important than I had realsied.

I expect most players who craft have been dismayed how cheap NPC-made ships are and that player-made ships offers no advantages. All ships up to at least Constitution appear to be widely available (though I haven't checked wood and trim) which suggests there won't be much of a market for player-made ships below that level, but I consoled myself with the thought that the top end of the market - RvR ships - would remain entirely player made. Shipbuilders would make line of battle ships (and restricteds like Heavy Rattlesnake if the BP is made available), and would-be shipbuilders would gain xp by making ship components and repairs to give them income during their apprenticeship.

What will the apprentice shipwright do now though? Apart from 3 ships right at the beginning, I have sold every single ship I have made on PvP1 (except those I made for myself), all for a healthy profit - because I could offer quality which NPCs could (or did) not. I think I have used every single labour hour I've generated since starting the game, usually with some perk or other to increase supply or reduce consumption, and I am now level 35 with every BP unlocked up to 3rd Rate.

But now you appear to be encouraging new players down the TLynx rinse and repeat path. Quite how this makes them better able to build a first rate than sawing frame timbers, planks and masts. making rigging, carriages, cables furnishings and ballast, I really cannot fathom.

Highest NPC ship I have seen being sold is a Connie and LGV for traders.  Now one thing I have noticed is that for lower  traders (trader brig) are only 3 slot ships so not sure what is going on here. hurry up and wait I guess.  Yea if you been thinking you might want an alt you should buy it now, get your crafting up on live is way to go, way to many people have extra cash and parts to easy get you to 50 in a day or 2.  I my self may have over 100 lh contracts on both server combined and pass them out like candy.  No reason to even come out of port.

 

@admin We do need to know if Ships we build give xp to builder still and what kind of XP like ship slots or just reg xp,  If it still dose, I Have I not got anything as of yet with ships built given to other player.

[Barberouge]

1 hour ago, finchaser12 said:

So when is the actual wipe and release of the game going to happen because i thought it was supposed to be by the 20th of april ?

The wipe has been delayed by 1-2 weeks. No ETA for the official release yet.