Ruthless4u Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Seeing Hethwill/The red duke refuses to discuss reopening the original thread after ignoring an email. I have mentioned this in several post on the steam forums, and I seen it brought up here But that was shut down. I am one of the aforementioned hearing impaired who can't use voice chat to communicate with other players. Why will I no longer be allowed to communicate with the majority of the games population? I can't really join a clan( everyone requires VC) and in nation chat is so hit and miss ( at least the times I play) but global I could typically find players to talk to. Is there even a point to trying to play if I can't communicate with 80-90 percent of the games population. It's not like there is a lot to do in OW on long trips. But i'm sure this will be shut down, like all the other discussions on the matter. But at please have the decency to tell me why I'm being punished for doing nothing wrong? Rickard, Wraith, Fellvred and 4 others like this 1
Anne Wildcat Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 If global gets removed, you, like everyone else, will still be able to communicate with your nation through the in game chat 2
LeBoiteux Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) And as anybody you'll be able to use Discord (voice and text chat) that NA gamers will certainly set up as a substitute for Global chat, such as this one : Edited April 16, 2017 by LeBoiteux
TommyShelby Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Meh, the removal of Global Chat is a weird decision. Whenever i log on to Naval Action i immediately write in Global and start chatting with people. Not being able to do that will suck ass. 1
TXSailor Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, LeBoiteux said: And as anybody you'll be able to use Discord (voice and text chat) that NA gamers will certainly set up as a substitute for Global chat, such as this one : So the game developers broke something for players and now expect third world applications to fix their terrible decisions... and you're okay with this... Edited April 16, 2017 by TXSailor
LeBoiteux Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, TXSailor said: So the game developers broke something for players and now expect third world applications to fix their terrible decisions... and you're okay with this... There are easy alternatives. Yet you complain ?
Fellvred Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 The weird thing about getting rid of global chat is that the main reason seems to be the toxicity of a small number of players towards other nations, The choices seem to have been either enforce the chat rules and ban the idiots (who seem to be the vocals ones in reviews/forums etc) or wash their hands of the situation and let people on third party applications do the moderating. Not allowing people to communicate with their enemies in full open world mmos worked a decade ago (vanilla WoW etc) because there wasn't any easy/elegant ways to get hundreds of people in the same conversation. But with the current situation a large portion of players will be funnelled towards Discord et al and mods ingame will have zero say on how toxic it'll be. From a personal point of view I don't see why strict chat rules aren't enforced - give them two warning and then a total chat ban for the account. But obviously if there aren't enough mods to warn and ban idiots the devs don't have much of a choice.
JollyRoger1516 Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 45 minutes ago, LeBoiteux said: There are easy alternatives. Yet you complain ? It doesn't amtter if it is easy. We are players and testers but it is clearly not our job to fix everything for the devs that they destroy.
Vernon Merrill Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JollyRoger1516 said: It doesn't amtter if it is easy. We are players and testers but it is clearly not our job to fix everything for the devs that they destroy. Some would argue that WE have destroyed chat since many of us clearly cannot behave as adults. EDIT: That being said, I would prefer to have global chat in game... and have people on a very short leash. Edited April 16, 2017 by Vernon Merrill 1
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, JollyRoger1516 said: It doesn't amtter if it is easy. We are players and testers but it is clearly not our job to fix everything for the devs that they destroy. It is our "job" to be respectful at all times. While I do want Global to say, I want it to stay because we know we can use it properly. And yeah, totally support the harsh measures. But then loud mouths will review the game saying "bans everywhere" without even being countered by the players that actually reported them... There's no half harsh measures and it works across all platforms, game, forum , steam, etc. What you gonna do ? Report and Pray ? Or actually report and make sure they don't lie ? Ah well... give me the cake, give me the knife and please...stay away from the damn table. I'm gona eat it.
JollyRoger1516 Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, Vernon Merrill said: Some would argue that WE have destroyed chat since many of us clearly cannot behave as adults. EDIT: That being said, I would prefer to have global chat in game... and have people on a very short leash. WE is including a whole buttload of people who haven't been responsible at all. Be it as it may - the game is supposed to work without major outside help. A player pays money then logs on to play. In the case of early access he tests and reports but that is where the players interaction ends. Anything beyond that is 100% voluntarily contributed. As it stands this game could not function without the players coutnering several heavy problems within the game - sometimes created by the devs mid development.
JollyRoger1516 Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Red Duke said: It is our "job" to be respectful at all times. While I do want Global to say, I want it to stay because we know we can use it properly. I was. I have one warning point on the forum for an issue that has been resolved in a peaceful talk and never had an ingame chat ban (and btw forum and ingame would be two different things but thats a different story). And this applys to the majority of the players as well. Do not make me responsible for the actions of a few bad apples that a lack of decent/deceisive moderation has failed to adress(this is obviously up for debate - just my two cents). Whatever the reason however - it is not my fault so don't punish me.
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Not you as an individual, of course not. Why does everything need to revolve about individuals ? We are brighter than that. It is about a whole game, a whole community. Welcome to it. Like a CEO I had in a company I worked for, fantastic guy, very friendly, knew every single person in a universe of hundreds, but when serious stuff came up he would always ask - "This is not about you... and by the way, who are you again?" - he really passed the message. - on subject - Regarding impaired players, there's a entire guild made of hearing impaired, most of them 100%, which braved ALL challenges a well known MMO could offer. I wonder how. But still, the chat with own companions from own nation is not going away. Any player, hearing impaired or not can communicate with fellow captains serving under the same flag. Continue discussion in the thread linked.
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