Just a bit dissapointed Game Lab

[Mike the Mongel]

Love the game, the genre and the direction you are taking the game..in some aspects not sure about but that's why this is early access....But...

You have to communicate more and stop dragging your feet and leaving the early access players..(whom gave you a boost in income by buying into the early access) in the dark.

Only speaking for myself but feeling abit disappointed in communications we have gotten as there is so much gray area it leaves the players to come up with our own conclusions or listen to others not even associated with Game Labs..(no offense but they forum whores and do have some good information but not from Game Labs)

You have also said go to testbed....hmmmm well that's a whole new subject and frankly its about as boring as the live servers currently...bottom line to that is your Patch/Content releases, far and few between, guess you want to get a whole new game developed by the looks of the changes before you release anything, understandable there is a lot of changes but wow seems many are finding interests elsewhere.

Venting right now..and just a little frustrated.

[Fenris]

1 hour ago, Mike the Mongel said:

Love the game, the genre and the direction you are taking the game..in some aspects not sure about but that's why this is early access....But...

You have to communicate more and stop dragging your feet and leaving the early access players..(whom gave you a boost in income by buying into the early access) in the dark.

Only speaking for myself but feeling abit disappointed in communications we have gotten as there is so much gray area it leaves the players to come up with our own conclusions or listen to others not even associated with Game Labs..(no offense but they forum whores and do have some good information but not from Game Labs)

You have also said go to testbed....hmmmm well that's a whole new subject and frankly its about as boring as the live servers currently...bottom line to that is your Patch/Content releases, far and few between, guess you want to get a whole new game developed by the looks of the changes before you release anything, understandable there is a lot of changes but wow seems many are finding interests elsewhere.

Venting right now..and just a little frustrated.

So whats actually your issue here?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Mike the Mongel said:

Love the game, the genre and the direction you are taking the game..in some aspects not sure about but that's why this is early access....But...

You have to communicate more and stop dragging your feet and leaving the early access players..(whom gave you a boost in income by buying into the early access) in the dark.

Only speaking for myself but feeling abit disappointed in communications we have gotten as there is so much gray area it leaves the players to come up with our own conclusions or listen to others not even associated with Game Labs..(no offense but they forum whores and do have some good information but not from Game Labs)

You have also said go to testbed....hmmmm well that's a whole new subject and frankly its about as boring as the live servers currently...bottom line to that is your Patch/Content releases, far and few between, guess you want to get a whole new game developed by the looks of the changes before you release anything, understandable there is a lot of changes but wow seems many are finding interests elsewhere.

Venting right now..and just a little frustrated.

We're all EA testers.. That's the point of the games current state and patience is to be required.. I myself haven't been active ingame for 14 days now - that doesn't mean I've lost interest in the game - I'm just building up for the post wipe mayhem..

[Vernon Merrill]

Alpha testing isn't for everyone.  At the end of the day it's not "our" game.  Paying $40 does not make you a share-holder.  I'm not trying to sound harsh, but I think sometimes people expect a bit too much.  The devs had stated that they cannot and will not try to please everyone going forward.  That's great news, if you ask me.  It tells me they've settled on a plan and can focus on completing it. 

[Powderhorn]

They've been communicating a LOT of late, just look at their posting history.  They said they wanted to get the patch out to the test bed by the end of this week.  Schedules slip due to unanticipated issues, but, what I see is that they haven't posted yet today.  How I interpret that is that they are busting their humps to get the patch out to the testbed.  

I hope they manage to by the end of the week, but at the end of the day, if it comes next week instead... does it really make a difference in the grand scheme of things?

[Sir Texas Sir]

22 minutes ago, Powderhorn said:

They've been communicating a LOT of late, just look at their posting history.  They said they wanted to get the patch out to the test bed by the end of this week.  Schedules slip due to unanticipated issues, but, what I see is that they haven't posted yet today.  How I interpret that is that they are busting their humps to get the patch out to the testbed.  

I hope they manage to by the end of the week, but at the end of the day, if it comes next week instead... does it really make a difference in the grand scheme of things?

But how hard is it for them to come on here and make a post,

"Hay we are having some more issues with testbed patch so it won't be this week, we will try our best to get it out next week.  Have a happy Easter weekend and enjoy it with your family."  

Signed Devs

See that wasn't hard at all and now that it's Friday evening and they have been avoiding this and we know it's holiday weekend so that pretty sure we WON'T SEE THE PATCH this week.  Which maybe if they stop adding crap like removing global and other things they can get the patch out and than make tweeks to it while it's in testbed as needed.   Remember not every content has to make it into every patch, but if you keep pushing patches back and back and back to add more content they will never get dropped in a timely manor.

 

[Justme]

Sometimes I get this feeling half of the dev team wants the game to succeed, while the other half wants it to fail.

 

[Mike the Mongel]

Don't get me wrong I am trying to bust anyones chops here...I understand their side, I was with a development team for a few years and understand, but I also see the need for improvement on the PR side..with updates,information etc etc...and I wasn't trying to make it sound like I was a share holder just because I am part of early  access, hell its a blast to be,but in the same respects you need to keep those you count on (playerbase) just a bit more informed, not just put half hearted information out there (as you say a LOT as of late)..and let it go from there.

I don't drink the kool aid but I also am a fan of the game and want to keep it that way.

[Henry d'Esterre Darby]

1 minute ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

See that wasn't hard at all and now that it's Friday evening and they have been avoiding this and we know it's holiday weekend so that pretty sure we WON'T SEE THE PATCH this week.  

Saying (or thinking) that they're intentionally avoiding updating you is a very negative attitude.  When people are driving extremely hard towards something, either they have to interrupt their work to provide frequent updates, or at the end of their workday, which has likely included overtime, they have to take additional time to update us - about a test bed patch.  I think I'd rather they get some dinner and depressurize to be ready for tomorrow instead personally.

Don't think of it as they are avoiding something, think of it as they are too tired to provide an update.  It's testbed.  Today, Monday, Wednesday, what difference does it make?  Sit  back, relax, and you'll see an update show up as soon as it's ready.

[Henry d'Esterre Darby]

2 minutes ago, Justme said:

Sometimes I get this feeling half of the dev team wants the game to succeed, while the other half wants it to fail.

Please provide some form of evidence of this?  Statements such as this do not further the relationship between Game Labs and the community.

[HardyKnox]

Test Bed is updating as we speak.

[Sir Texas Sir]

48 minutes ago, HardyKnox said:

Test Bed is updating as we speak.

Yah just got back from the store and noticed that.....let the chaos begin.  

[Mike the Mongel]

54 minutes ago, HardyKnox said:

Test Bed is updating as we speak.

OUTSTANDING

 

[Jack Jones]

HEY HEY!!

[Justme]

On April 14, 2017 at 0:36 PM, Henry d'Esterre Darby said:

Please provide some form of evidence of this?  Statements such as this do not further the relationship between Game Labs and the community.

I'm not the only one who feels this way. Look at this thread

I know we are not allowed to have contrary opinions to mods and staff, but players still do, and yet you guys still plug your ears while yelling I can't hear you.

 

 

[monk33y]

We are testers correct the way that hame labs interacts with us is dreadful.

We get no information (so we get on with it) or loads of information then nothing to back up the information with (patches/updates) 

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

22 minutes ago, Justme said:

I'm not the only one who feels this way. Look at this thread

I know we are not allowed to have contrary opinions to mods and staff, but players still do, and yet you guys still plug your ears while yelling I can't hear you.

 

 

Henry did not ask you if you were the only one. He asked you for evidence. Do not confuse things.

 

 

[Guest]

The rate and depth of communication has been awesome as of late, I think the main problem is finding it - usually you have to go digging into pages of forum threads to find out some of the info. Perhaps we would be able to construct a stickied thread in which all the direct question-and-answer posts that the devs make are unified in a single thread?

[Ketunpoika]

Communication will safe Naval Action!!!!!

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[Havelock]

On 21.4.2017 at 10:33 PM, Aegir said:

The rate and depth of communication has been awesome as of late, I think the main problem is finding it - usually you have to go digging into pages of forum threads to find out some of the info. Perhaps we would be able to construct a stickied thread in which all the direct question-and-answer posts that the devs make are unified in a single thread?

 

Search functions are your friend:

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/discover/unread/&stream_include_comments=1&stream_read=all&stream_ownership=custom&stream_custom_members=admin

[Guest]

11 hours ago, Havelock said:

 

Search functions are your friend:

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/discover/unread/&stream_include_comments=1&stream_read=all&stream_ownership=custom&stream_custom_members=admin

Cheers Havelock, but yeah, while that's the method that I usually use to find the info - albeit even then it can be tricky to find since it's a jumble and purely responses without knowing the question - I was thinking more along the lines of an average player, say a steam user who is confused and goes onto the official forums for some clarity.

Edited April 24, 2017 by Guest

[SeamanStaines]

Well here is my 10 cents worth, and yes, I know we are testing and I expect that with new patches there will be issues found that are unexpected. However one issue I think could be addressed by the Dev's is to release more detailed information and instructions from the beginning. If we look at the historical posts going back to the beginning of the game, it usually goes like this. The patch is released with only a brief overview covering changes. There then follows dozens pages of questions and answers on the forum on how it works, as we all experiment, screw up and try to work out how things work. To find answers requires wading through pages and pages of comments, split over multiple threads and some are just opinion rather than fact. This could be avoided if more detail was initially presented i.e. detailed instructions. If the Dev's don't have time to do this maybe on of the more experienced players could be charged with doing this by allowing early test-bed access and access to the Dev's for questions and answers. Whereas this may not be required for minor patches it would be welcomed for major changes and may avoid some of the frustration and wasted time involved with the trial and error approach that we currently have to use.