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  1. 1. Removal of Global chat and all communications between nations

    • Utterly disagree. In my opinion stoping player communication in MMO OW sandbox will kill the game.
      70
    • I would rather have completely non-monitored Global with a warning of adult content and Parental Control to switch it off, than have it removed
      30
    • Ignore toxic players function is enough for me, no need to remove Global
      63
    • No communications between nations IMO stops all nation diplomatic affairs - bad for the game and player interactions
      39
    • I want Global chat and communication between nations removed because I don't see any reason to have them
      18
    • I want Global to be removed, but keep communication between nations
      14
    • I want communication between nations to be removed, but keep the Global chat
      3
    • Remove Global only if we will be allowed to create our own permanent channels that we could monitor and mod ourselves.
      9
    • If Global is removed, then introduce Region Local chats
      25
    • Leave the global chat as-is but be much tougher with chat rule offenders
      15
  2. 2. In short Yes or No to removal of Global and communication between nations

    • Yes - remove Global chat and communication between enemies in OW and Instances
      32
    • No - keep both as they are
      110
    • Other
      15


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Posted (edited)

In the light of the recent announcement of removal of Global chat and all communications between enemies in OW and Instances, please express your feelings about the matter.
Basically you cant communicate with other nations (can't even post in trade to initiate player to player trading), can't transport ships to Free Ports to get them easily available for the fights (you now have to sail and deliver everything manually).
Will be interesting and quite frankly important to see what community really thinks about this.

(!) Let me know if you want me to add any more options to the Multi Choice questions.




Original topic:

Specifically this:

Update 2 on communication with enemies

  • global chat will be removed
  • Communication with enemies will be removed as well (both in the OW and instances)
  • Toxicity in national chats will be worked on as before (based on reports) 

 


I had my reply here if someone is interested to know. But we need to hear this community out, before its too late.

Edited by koltes
Posted

What WoT did was to give you the option to turn it off.  That is all they need to do.  We all ready can do that with Global and ignore players, but we can't do that with battle chat.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

What WoT did was to give you the option to turn it off.  That is all they need to do.  We all ready can do that with Global and ignore players, but we can't do that with battle chat.

I think WOT has turned chat between two sides completely, however this is besides the point. WOT is a lobby game and there is no need to communicate with the other side whatsoever except rare moments to say hi to your friends. NA is OW game where people should be communicating by definition of OW Sandbox

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Posted

I really missed something big here ...

  • global chat will be removed
  • Communication with enemies will be removed as well (both in the OW and instances)

Why is this important?  Global chat can be turned off.  Enemy communication can be ignored in an instance.  Could we just add the ability to toggle it off in an instance? 

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Posted
46 minutes ago, Macjimm said:

I really missed something big here ...

  • global chat will be removed
  • Communication with enemies will be removed as well (both in the OW and instances)

Why is this important?  Global chat can be turned off.  Enemy communication can be ignored in an instance.  Could we just add the ability to toggle it off in an instance? 

Yah that is the simple solution.  Maybe to many reports and they don't want to got through them or something?   

Posted

I didn't find an option that fit my opinion in the poll here. 

On average I think removing global chat is a net loss and not a gain to the game. We are already such a small community. At this point we shouldn't forcibly divide the community even further. Removing enemy chat could work, but we need some form of replacement communication.

I really hope that removing global chat will be temporary, and that for in-game chat we get a semaphore-inspired system with short, predefined messages as replacement.

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Anolytic said:

I didn't find an option that fit my opinion in the poll here. 

On average I think removing global chat is a net loss and not a gain to the game. We are already such a small community. At this point we shouldn't forcibly divide the community even further. Removing enemy chat could work, but we need some form of replacement communication.

I really hope that removing global chat will be temporary, and that for in-game chat we get a semaphore-inspired system with short, predefined messages as replacement.

What question do you suggest me to add to this poll that would best represent how you feel about it?

Edited by koltes
Posted
1 hour ago, Forphuxakes said:

Personally this game would be super boring without the in game chatter, i talk shit in global to other people and it gives the enemy player more aggravation to sink me.

Really? Kinnda stupid motivation for an adult person,don't you think?

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Posted

Removing global chat is not bad at least for a month. If it's not made both server will get spam by other server to join them.

i. An perfectly immagine Chris or wraith coming to Europe server of there is less people on Europe than on global and beginning to be toxic to discourage people.

few will ignore him, a majority will add salt on salt and finnaly the old good toxicity will be present.

for the good of the server split I would recommend a temporary local remove to let the spirit calm down and a reintroduction in one month.

 

ps i would love to have the option to choose. A"skill" into the perk to be able to use global chat

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Posted
5 hours ago, koltes said:

can't transport ships to Free Ports to get them easily available for the fights (you now have to sail and deliver everything manually).

They just make us pay marks for it, i's not that bad ;)

Posted
1 minute ago, PIerrick de Badas said:

Removing global chat is not bad at least for a month.

Now that's a proper and thoughtful remark.

( poll is highly irregular in the answers. A yes, no, don't use global anyway, options would be perfect instead of all the explanations )

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Posted

It would prevent us from leaving the complementary o7 and normal friendly talk that has always been worth more then 100 toxic comments. For the fact alone that I refuse to bow to toxic people I am against removing chats (give more options for ignoring people would be ok I guess).

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Zooloo said:

They just make us pay marks for it, i's not that bad ;)

It was clearly said no deliveries between free towns. Free or for money. None

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Hethwill said:

You didn't read all. There's the idea to use Marks.

Resources transport from FT to FT - will be disabled (might return for a battle related consumable e.g. 25 pve marks or 2 pvp marks)
It might or might not. But what is definite is the removal of delivery. Instead of marks I would rather prefer player delivery contracts. They will bring players to OW naturally too.
Anyways, its the chat that bothers me the most, hence why the poll wasnt about the deliveries

Edited by koltes
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Posted

Yes. That is what Zooloo was referring to :) ( btw we had more development time without deliveries than with deliveries. OW got empty since all kinds of TP got introduced. Planning cruises is a essential part of a age of sail simulation of the life in the west indies the same way planning a patrol cruise over the Channel is essential for a battle of britain simulation - you simply do not phase in and out into the warp )

Indeed, is about global chat. Guess we should keep it if we know how to keep our cool and behavior. All of us. At all times.

( poll questions direct answers to specific intended results. It is not honest. )

Posted

Without global communications and the removal of lobby based mechanics, the game will die a slow death.

We cannot find enemies on the hugte open world.

We cannot talk to allies.

We cannot chat with others when you are in a small nation.

 

No action, no social interaction, the game is dead.

Posted

I like the idea to remove communication with enemies.

My experience: 90% of global Instance Chat is used to post things like:

"coward", "noob", "bastard", "stupid", ..

The global chat is always hidden when i am playing. This is to prevent to read Insults, Flames, Trolling and other things.

And remember: If game labs dont need to work on several insult-reports they have more ressources to develop the game.

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Sven Silberbart said:

I like the idea to remove communication with enemies.

My experience: 90% of global Instance Chat is used to post things like:

"coward", "noob", "bastard", "stupid", ..

The global chat is always hidden when i am playing. This is to prevent to read Insults, Flames, Trolling and other things.

And remember: If game labs dont need to work on several insult-reports they have more ressources to develop the game.

Still how great the exchange was back in the Dutch Swedish war when the open world fleets clashed :)

Those moments make part of the NA history. Examples of good conduct should be shared.

( instead players focus more on naming & shaming, which I dislike with a passion )

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Posted

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What's the point of having a nuanced poll if you cant vote unless you commit to one of the two extremes in question 2?

Posted

I like to remove global chat and communication between hostile nations. I think there is just no good reason for that in general, its a game not a chatroom. Diplomacy is going to be done with politics mechanics. If local chat in harbours stays you also have an opportunity to chat there.

What we should have is maybe some kind of emotes or signaling e.g. to salute after a good fight.

 

Btw. i dont think this is something the community should decide about. 1) Now the population is low, and many guys like the global while not much is happening in their nation and in general, but thats shortsighted. 2) People who like to be rude, offend and incite, shouldnt be able to affect this decision.

Posted
54 minutes ago, Sven Silberbart said:

I like the idea to remove communication with enemies.

My experience: 90% of global Instance Chat is used to post things like:

"coward", "noob", "bastard", "stupid", ..

The global chat is always hidden when i am playing. This is to prevent to read Insults, Flames, Trolling and other things.

And remember: If game labs dont need to work on several insult-reports they have more ressources to develop the game.

I am willing to endure 90% of the bullshit talk and wanker attitude for the 10% of 'good fight', 'nice to see you around again', 'nice trick'. Again I refuse to lose my fun communication because some people are just a right bunch of wankers. We should not have to cater to their behaviour - ban them and be done with it so the rest of us can enjoy a good communication all around.

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Posted
51 minutes ago, Hethwill said:

Yes. That is what Zooloo was referring to :) ( btw we had more development time without deliveries than with deliveries. OW got empty since all kinds of TP got introduced. Planning cruises is a essential part of a age of sail simulation of the life in the west indies the same way planning a patrol cruise over the Channel is essential for a battle of britain simulation - you simply do not phase in and out into the warp )

Indeed, is about global chat. Guess we should keep it if we know how to keep our cool and behavior. All of us. At all times.

( poll questions direct answers to specific intended results. It is not honest. )

I did not "direct" to anything. I expressed how I feel about this and offered people to add more questions as they see fit.
I can't know everyone's answers/questions. That's why I said this:
(!) Let me know if you want me to add any more options to the Multi Choice questions.
I wanted to keep Yes/No as general as possible as their view on devs decision of removal of Global chat to show devs where community stands.
I still give people opportunity to express reasons behind their Yes or No answer through multi choice which they can add to as much as they want.
If you feel that you can't answer Yes or No then don't. Instead only answer multi choice and if its lacking your answer add to it.

 

 

41 minutes ago, Sven Silberbart said:

I like the idea to remove communication with enemies.

My experience: 90% of global Instance Chat is used to post things like:

"coward", "noob", "bastard", "stupid", ..

The global chat is always hidden when i am playing. This is to prevent to read Insults, Flames, Trolling and other things.

And remember: If game labs dont need to work on several insult-reports they have more ressources to develop the game.

I understand that that you want to avoid negativity of global chat. That's cool. Thats why you have an option to hide it which you have been doing.
We, who don't mind global being toxic at times will no longer have ANY options. I see this as one sided approach and I ask other people's opinions about it too.

Also when players face each other in the huge OW world of Sandbox game they somehow mean to interact with each other. Without ability to say anything they are doomed to only let their guns do the talking. One sided for a sandbox game don't you think?

Isn't sandbox means freedom of choice?


 

23 minutes ago, Aegir said:

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What's the point of having a nuanced poll if you cant vote unless you commit to one of the two extremes in question 2?

No point. So can you clearly write the question that I can add to the poll and that you will be happy to answer?

 

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Just now, koltes said:

 

No point. So can you clearly write the question that I can add to the poll and that you will be happy to answer?

 

Just add an "Other..." option to question 2 so that people dont have to distort the poll by dealing in absolutes.

Posted
1 minute ago, Aegir said:

Just add an "Other..." option to question 2 so that people dont have to distort the poll by dealing in absolutes.

Done

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