Aventador Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, OneEyedSnake said: we have massive racists in our server sadly 1
Christendom Posted March 23, 2017 Author Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Augustus Charles Hobart H said: I will be there, but only if you accept my divine right to command any nation i join Swedish meatball-in-chief ANYWAY back on topic. If you're planning on making the educated and enlightened choice of staying on PVP Global, you're invited. @Tiargo Will of course be policing our teamspeak for any barbies and will kick them on sight. Edited March 23, 2017 by Christendom
Kawazz Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 IGG will be sending 2 reps, cant make it sadly. The future looks bright for PVPG!!
VirtuallyIdiotic Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said: Are the Pirates invited to this? Every time PvP2 has one of these meeting the pirates aren't invited cause most folks don't think we are a Nation or should be treated as one. Invitations were sent to multiple pirates last time I attempted to host a meeting. The invites were thrown back into my face or never received a response. Pirates are not a nation that can participate in politics. Why should a faction that cannot participate in a subject that mainly concerned politics been invited to that meeting? I am glad the Pirates are invited to this meeting and do hope that they participate. This merger involves all of us and not just the few. If we want to have a smooth transition we need to do it together. The server has gotten to the point where no one wants to admit they did anything wrong and everything that did go wrong is someone else fault. Me included, which I have taken the time to correct that. 13 minutes ago, McMannis said: I think we would all like to talk with the pirates as much as any other nation. Good luck trying to get Cordova or Lionshaft to sit and talk to pirates. @Christendom they will be the ones you need for sure to get to the table and they do not hop on the forums as far as I am aware.
Kawazz Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 Just now, Davos Seasworth said: Invitations were sent to multiple pirates last time I attempted to host a meeting. The invites were thrown back into my face or never received a response. Pirates are not a nation that can participate in politics. Why should a faction that cannot participate in a subject that mainly concerned politics been invited to that meeting? I am glad the Pirates are invited to this meeting and do hope that they participate. This merger involves all of us and not just the few. If we want to have a smooth transition we need to do it together. The server has gotten to the point where no one wants to admit they did anything wrong and everything that did go wrong is someone else fault. Me included, which I have taken the time to correct that. Good luck trying to get Cordova or Lionshaft to sit and talk to pirates. @Christendom they will be the ones you need for sure to get to the table and they do not hop on the forums as far as I am aware. Cordova is reasonable. No need to waste your time with Lion. 1
Sir Texas Sir Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Davos Seasworth said: Invitations were sent to multiple pirates last time I attempted to host a meeting. The invites were thrown back into my face or never received a response. Pirates are not a nation that can participate in politics. Why should a faction that cannot participate in a subject that mainly concerned politics been invited to that meeting? I am glad the Pirates are invited to this meeting and do hope that they participate. This merger involves all of us and not just the few. If we want to have a smooth transition we need to do it together. The server has gotten to the point where no one wants to admit they did anything wrong and everything that did go wrong is someone else fault. Me included, which I have taken the time to correct that. Good luck trying to get Cordova or Lionshaft to sit and talk to pirates. @Christendom they will be the ones you need for sure to get to the table and they do not hop on the forums as far as I am aware. Funny I asked every officer of our clan and including myself we never got invites (other than I think kotles did but he can't be on at those times) and than ya'll said we weren't invited to the first one cause folks said they won't show up if we show up. I'm sorry we are just as much a nation as any one else. I mean just look at the map. We effect politics just as much. Just cause we can't we do alliances or others join our battles don't mean we are any lesser of a nation than any one else. Again this Pirate BIAS that we aren't a Nation crap needs to be dropped. We have done more for the small nations on PvP2 than any other nations so we do effect the politics. Hell part of the reason we are burning US and Brits is cause we plan to give a lot of this land to them. We just need the alliance back with Danes so they can defend there lands cause other wise ya'll will just take it right back....like ya'll are doing with the swedes even though it's only a few guys most folks hate it's still a small nation. I would say Cordova-CKA and Lionshaft-NPG are the two largest nations clans, but they aren't the only ones and I hate to say it those nations need to get the younger clans up and in charge cause they need better leadership. As Davos said they don't get on forums and prob won't even show to any meetings, but good luck with them. I would try for more of the smaller clans cause they are the ones that want change and growth for there nations instead of doing the exact same old thing that isn't working. As for BLACK I will let the other officers know and we will see about having some one there. The only thing that will keep us is if that is during a port battle time than we will not be able to show up. We do not plan to stop playing up till the patch so we plan to continue to have RvR and PvP up till than. PvP1 guys are more than welcome to come over and play in any nation though the small ones could use help. It would be good to start getting to know each other before hand. Edited March 24, 2017 by Sir Texas Sir 3
TBD Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 32 minutes ago, Davos Seasworth said: Invitations were sent to multiple pirates last time I attempted to host a meeting. The invites were thrown back into my face or never received a response. Pirates are not a nation that can participate in politics. Why should a faction that cannot participate in a subject that mainly concerned politics been invited to that meeting? I am glad the Pirates are invited to this meeting and do hope that they participate. This merger involves all of us and not just the few. If we want to have a smooth transition we need to do it together. The server has gotten to the point where no one wants to admit they did anything wrong and everything that did go wrong is someone else fault. Me included, which I have taken the time to correct that. Good luck trying to get Cordova or Lionshaft to sit and talk to pirates. @Christendom they will be the ones you need for sure to get to the table and they do not hop on the forums as far as I am aware. Davos, you were GB then and neither your leaders nor Pirate leaders can remain in the same space time location without chain reaction going critical in 2.5 seconds. Your intentions were honorable but you inadvertently kicked a hornets nest. I believe in long term you left the nation due to politics ( believe me Pirates influence server politics more then votes sometimes). But let bygone be bygones or you starting to sound like you cannot let go either. No one is clean on PVP2. We getting a chance at fresh start. Cheers 2
Aventador Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 Lets try to keep things on this thread about the FUTURE and not about salty situations in the past. 7
PIerrick de Badas Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 Great idea. I hope this topic will not finish in salty discussion as the one we made about our decision. Tiphat and enjoy your game on global. Many will be present on both server but i won't join your meeting as i will probably not play really much on global. 3
VirtuallyIdiotic Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sir Texas Sir said: Funny I asked every officer of our clan and including myself we never got invites (other than I think koltes did but he can't be on at those times) Invites were sent. I know you told me that you would not show up for some reason. Been a few months cant remember full details, had to clean out my mailbox recently. I also extended invites to Loco who stated he will not likely make it because of time. Koltes I never got a response from. There were a few others. 1 hour ago, Sir Texas Sir said: than ya'll said we weren't invited to the first one cause folks said they won't show up if we show up. So I guess I should have just ignored doing any attempt from the start because nothing would have even started if pirates showed up to the first meeting. I made sure the subjects did not involve pirates because of this. Only time Pirates were mentioned was when someone mentioned the Castries being taken for the French. That was quickly thrown away by US and French before that discussion even got started because the Pirates were not in attendance. Second meeting which was suppose to happen soon after was going to have pirates invited because it was going to cover more of items concerning pirates and review over the previous meeting. Those who would have left that meeting would be left out then. It is in the past though. Nothing can be done about it now especially when no one seems to want to talk to one another so it is better left alone. 1 hour ago, Sir Texas Sir said: We just need the alliance back with Danes so they can defend there lands cause other wise ya'll will just take it right back....like ya'll are doing with the swedes even though it's only a few guys most folks hate it's still a small nation. Were fine with that. Dutch do not really care for those ports up there for the most port. Just spanking those two individuals. We will fight for them nonetheless however if the times work for us much as we expect respectfully for the Danes. Props to the French players by the way that showed up to defend the Swedish ports. I apologize for any ships lost defending Sweden. 1 hour ago, Sir Texas Sir said: I would say Cordova-CKA and Lionshaft-NPG are the two largest nations clans, but they aren't the only ones and I hate to say it those nations need to get the younger clans up and in charge cause they need better leadership. As Davos said they don't get on forums and prob won't even show to any meetings, but good luck with them. I would try for more of the smaller clans cause they are the ones that want change and growth for there nations instead of doing the exact same old thing that isn't working. Agreed. Clans such as BCS, DD, and ELITE should definitely be involved. IGG is more important in the US now than NPG. 1 hour ago, Sir Texas Sir said: The only thing that will keep us is if that is during a port battle time than we will not be able to show up. Hopefully at least some individuals will be able to show up. 1 hour ago, Sir Texas Sir said: P1 guys are more than welcome to come over and play in any nation though the small ones could use help. It would be good to start getting to know each other before hand. Agreed. Saw a few French from PvP1 show up to Grande-Terre PB the other day. 55 minutes ago, Comrade I Stalin said: your leaders nor Pirate leaders can remain in the same space time location without chain reaction going critical in 2.5 second they were not my leaders. My leaders left a long time ago. But I agree, they cant stand near one another. 55 minutes ago, Comrade I Stalin said: Your intentions were honorable but you inadvertently kicked a hornets nest. Probably. Individuals do not have the patience to do politics. They want results right away. I blame American commercialism lol. 55 minutes ago, Comrade I Stalin said: I believe in long term you left the nation due to politics You obviously have no idea why we left then. 55 minutes ago, Comrade I Stalin said: But let bygone be bygones or you starting to sound like you cannot let go either. I am fine with letting things drop excluding two. Am I suppose to let things just be said that are just exerts from the full picture though? If you only hear from one side of the story then nothing will ever get achieved. There is always two sides to a coin. I have no issues with @koltes @koiz @Teutonic @Sir Texas Sir @ElricTheTwo and anyone else almost. As I told all of them my door is always open and even though I may not agree with them does not mean I have some grudge against them. 55 minutes ago, Comrade I Stalin said: No one is clean on PVP2. As I stated in the post you quoted of mine: 1 hour ago, Davos Seasworth said: The server has gotten to the point where no one wants to admit they did anything wrong and everything that did go wrong is someone else fault. Me included, which I have taken the time to correct that. 50 minutes ago, Aventador said: Lets try to keep things on this thread about the FUTURE and not about salty situations in the past. The past is very present in the current situation of PvP2. It is more than likely show up at one point or another in the meeting unfortunately. Hopefully not. Edited March 24, 2017 by Davos Seasworth
Christendom Posted March 24, 2017 Author Posted March 24, 2017 Let's end the bullshit between Davos, Comrade and Texas please. We're not interested in past transgressions. 7
VirtuallyIdiotic Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Christendom said: Let's end the bullshit between Davos, Comrade and Texas please. We're not interested in past transgressions. Done. My apologies I got caught up in the conversation with @Sir Texas Sir. We both tend to get caught up in these sort of debates yet we mean neither ill will. I will take full blame for this however for taking it on as long as I have. Edited March 24, 2017 by Davos Seasworth
Norfolk nChance Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) ELITE will attend and listen with an open mind. The date set couldn't be more foreboding though... Norfolk nChance Edited March 24, 2017 by Norfolk nChance 1
Atreides Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 AUS will be there. I feel this gives us an opportunity to try to balance the server from the outset. Ad far as Cordova, I will pop over to PVP2 and invite him, we used to sail together. 1
VirtuallyIdiotic Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Atreides said: Ad far as Cordova, I will pop over to PVP2 and invite him, we used to sail together. Dont worry. We got a hold of him and informed him. 2
Diceman Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 The lowly pubs aren't invited??? I hope you will at least publish on the forums how it looks like the nations will populate so that maybe the lowly unwashed masses might aid in balancing out populations....
Christendom Posted March 24, 2017 Author Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Diceman said: The lowly pubs aren't invited??? I hope you will at least publish on the forums how it looks like the nations will populate so that maybe the lowly unwashed masses might aid in balancing out populations.... Read the entire post before criticizing. Jeheil will most likely be in attendance and will be streaming the meeting. It is not feasible or productive to get EVERYONE on TS. If Jeheil cannot be on I'll stream it. Edited March 24, 2017 by Christendom 4
Diceman Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Christendom said: Read the entire post before criticizing. Jeheil will most likely be in attendance and will be streaming the meeting. It is not feasible or productive to get EVERYONE on TS. If Jeheil cannot be on I'll stream it. I didn't criticize. The original post says jack about how the unwashed masses will be informed. Will you be posting projected nation populations and where needs will be, so those of us who are not elite clannies might aid in populating the smaller nations?? I watched the last "conference" of the elite clannies and it quickly grew into an argument with people talking over each other and no real info flow... you know... normal government type behavior...
VirtuallyIdiotic Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Diceman said: The original post says jack about how the unwashed masses will be informed. 7 hours ago, Christendom said: @Jeheil Will of course be invited to stream and/or moderate again if he is willing and still interested.
TBD Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Christendom said: Let's end the bullshit between Davos, Comrade and Texas please. We're not interested in past transgressions. Who can argue with such tact and diplomacy. I will cease and desist immediately if not sooner or great master of the sea.
Juan Alfonso Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 Regarding how to inform the masses: The people & diplomats attending should constantly post about the summit in nation and global chats & a forum thread should be constructed regarding the overall results set out clearly for people to read quickly and get the gist of what will be taking place. Regarding the summit itself people must leave their personal biases & grudges at the door, a decision made in anger & spite is a decision best not made at all. Looking forward to the results. Until then fair winds and happy sailing Captains, Juan Alfonso de Castella / Lord Frederick de Villeret 1
Sir Texas Sir Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 BLACK - PVP2 will send two officers for this. We plan to remain pirates on the new server but plan to support the other nations if needed. Could be good having more than one Pirate clans that might support different sides cause of the new Pirate on Pirate mechanics.
Chijohnaok Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 8 hours ago, Sir Texas Sir said: Are the Pirates invited to this? Every time PvP2 has one of these meeting the pirates aren't invited cause most folks don't think we are a Nation or should be treated as one. All joke aside I think this is a good thing which can help us get a good healthy server going with the PvP Global. Lets prove to these PvP EU guys they are going to be bored and back sooner than they think, remember the mirror server and how long that one lasted? I have no love for the folks you speak but man your starting to sound like a broken record about them. Your being no better than they are by making comments like this. I heard Badbenny is taking a break by the way so ya'll won't be dealing with him for a bit. Something about an GLOBAL argument between the two of them. Who knows, but hay lets leave this type of stuff in the past. All nations/clans (pirates included) that are currently on PvP 1 and PvP 2 and that intend to play on the future global server will be invited to this meeting. The only people that we ask not to participate are those players/clans that have announced their intention to play on the future EU server. As they have announced their intention to play on the other server, they should have little to no input into what those intending to play on the global server are attempting to do here.
chailang Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) Denmark CCCP interested in 、 China 5 a.m.... and I need a translator Edited March 24, 2017 by chailang 2
Snoopy Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 The initiative to balance is very commendable. Please try to focus on the most important take away from the current PvP1 lock in: Implement a system of changing alliances right from the start. It's the only point at which this may have a chance of working and it's the only thing that may counteract the salt flowing again. Balancing numbers is good, but you also need to prevent ossified alliance blocks from reappearing. They are worse than temporary fighting with fewer numbers.
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