Kloothommel Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Johny Reb said: This is why the US does what it does the way it does it. The true core of all this BS talk about "night flips" comes back to this inherent belief in the Danish population and some others out there. (you are Danish right?) You are blind to your own hypocrisy because you don't believe you are a hypocrite. You think this server belongs to YOU and the North and South American players along with the Aussies and maybe even the Asians don't belong here. You ARE NOT concerned about night flips. You lie to yourself and everyone else when you say so. You attacked every one of our ports while we were asleep and at work. You didn't give a DAMN about player base at all then. Your same techniques are now biting you in the ASS and you try to claim some BS high almighty moral stance about getting fights and health of the game. Bull shit. Its all about you loosing ports to a player base that you don't think belongs in the game. So F* your arrogance and your attitude. WE ARE HERE. I have been here and on THIS server longer than almost everyone in the game and definitely YOU. Unless the devs choose against us we have every right to be here as you do and we have a right to find content during OUR prime time. We have NO obligation to meet YOUR needs or your expectations for "proper" game play or even care about your player base. You and others like you are a broken record. All changes must be made to make your life easier, your game play better, your advantages greater. You make no contribution to make the game better for all, beyond an argument to "remove the US". Your demands are to get stuff at others expense. Well until that attitude changes your tears will shower me with joy, your crying will sing me to sleep and your complaints will pad my resting head. See you tomorrow night. A war of player attrition. Real healthy.
E.P. Juel Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Johny Reb said: This is why the US does what it does the way it does it. The true core of all this BS talk about "night flips" comes back to this inherent belief in the Danish population and some others out there. (you are Danish right?) You are blind to your own hypocrisy because you don't believe you are a hypocrite. You think this server belongs to YOU and the North and South American players along with the Aussies and maybe even the Asians don't belong here. You ARE NOT concerned about night flips. You lie to yourself and everyone else when you say so. You attacked every one of our ports while we were asleep and at work. You didn't give a DAMN about player base at all then. Your same techniques are now biting you in the ASS and you try to claim some BS high almighty moral stance about getting fights and health of the game. Bull shit. Its all about you loosing ports to a player base that you don't think belongs in the game. So F* your arrogance and your attitude. WE ARE HERE. I have been here and on THIS server longer than almost everyone in the game and definitely YOU. Unless the devs choose against us we have every right to be here as you do and we have a right to find content during OUR prime time. We have NO obligation to meet YOUR needs or your expectations for "proper" game play or even care about your player base. You and others like you are a broken record. All changes must be made to make your life easier, your game play better, your advantages greater. You make no contribution to make the game better for all, beyond an argument to "remove the US". Your demands are to get stuff at others expense. Well until that attitude changes your tears will shower me with joy, your crying will sing me to sleep and your complaints will pad my resting head. See you tomorrow night. We attack you very few times while you are at work, its not your primetime but its your allies primetime at least, and ours. The server does not stand still, unlike 2AM when only US is online, doing PB only in workdays. That is the true BS. That you cannot apprehend the difference between your and our situation, when every other nation than you is EU primetime. You should be the ones to find content other than half defended PB's, but clearly you want it that way, so you can "win with the wind" and basecap. I am concered about night flips when only 1 nation roam around with primetime in 2 AM, refusing to do any weekend PB against us. Because you wont risk anything, not even that. I've been here since months before early access, although not as early as some. I have enough experience and tested enough features to have an opinion in this. It's your arrogance that makes you blind. Right now its your advantage that you are the only nation, roaming around in the night of workdays, while the rest of the server is asleep. You are the only ones who have an advantage, since you are the only one who can benefit from the time difference, as your allies have primetimes as every other nation in the game, being able to def you while you are at work. Well, I honestly dont care what sings you to sleep, this is after all only a game and a hobby, one that cannot be played with current mechs. US win the game, fighting only EU worknights 3AM. Much amaze Edited January 26, 2017 by E.P. Juel 1
Kloothommel Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hodo said: So I ignore Kloot, and he threatens to quit... well I would call this mission accomplished. Where did I say that XD
E.P. Juel Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hodo said: So I ignore Kloot, and he threatens to quit... well I would call this mission accomplished. Many of our players already have a break momentarily until fix, so yeah you succeeded. US player-base attrition mission accomplished. Well, there is other games to play, NA is not the only one Edited January 26, 2017 by E.P. Juel 1
Lord Vicious Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 20 hours ago, Johny Reb said: So, almost all of the ports we have attacked so far at have been met with equal forces. You forget quickly that it was the US that was the first on pvp1 to take a port with land and fully defended. The US is not what it used to be. It is no longer rebuilding. It is rebuilt. So, what is your point again? You won 1 pb in a year vs an equal force. i would not push that hard now mkay?
Johny Reb Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 20 minutes ago, E.P. Juel said: We attack you very few times while you are at work, its not your primetime but its your allies primetime at least, and ours. The server does not stand still, unlike 2AM when only US is online, doing PB only in workdays. That is the true BS. That you cannot apprehend the difference between your and our situation, when every other nation than you is EU primetime. You should be the ones to find content other than half defended PB's, but clearly you want it that way, so you can "win with the wind" and basecap. I am concered about night flips when only 1 nation roam around with primetime in 2 AM, refusing to do any weekend PB against us. Because you wont risk anything, not even that. I've been here since months before early access, although not as early as some. I have enough experience and tested enough features to have an opinion in this. It's your arrogance that makes you blind. Right now its your advantage that you are the only nation, roaming around in the night of workdays, while the rest of the server is asleep. You are the only ones who have an advantage, since you are the only one who can benefit from the time difference, as your allies have primetimes as every other nation in the game, being able to def you while you are at work. Our alliance has an advantage in a broader time spectrum of players. The US did not choose Britain or the Dutch because of our language similarities even if those similarities have allowed us to form close bonds. We were at war with the Brits for nearly a year before we joined forces. Our first attempt at a new alliance member which happened before we made peace with the Brits was the Spanish. We worked very hard to make that happen but alas, it fell through. At the beginning of Steam release we were actually allied with the Danes. There was no complaint about our time zone then. We were recently approached by the Danes to switch sides because you all wanted our time zone protection. You didn't mind us having our timezone then. We turned it down for multiple reasons but one big one was that you threatened us at the same time.... join us or we will destroy you (essentially) and the loudest voices in your nation don't even think we have a right to be on this server. Why would we want to show any sympathy to you, considering that. We know you don't show any sympathy for us. We were a tool for you and that was all. The basic truth of whats going on right now is that our actions now are a result of your behavior and for that reason we don't care much about your grievances. You get what you deserve. You have exploited(using US alts to deliver war supplies to a US port you wanted to attack), you have threatened us every time you have approached us for some form of agreement or peace, and then you entered a truce in bad faith, immediately violating the spirit of the agreement and hoodwinking us into canceling a PB that you showed up to anyway with 25 players robbing us of a fun fight in our prime time. So now you get a taste of your own medicine. You get to see how it feels. The Danish fleet is more powerful and more experienced than the US fleet. It is upon us to overcome our deficit and we have done it efficiently and effectively. Don't expect us to apologize for it. If you really want us to change our behavior right now then you must first acknowledge that we have a right to exist on this server. 2
Lord Vicious Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, azu said: tell me how we are losing again, did you humiliate the danish fleet or out smart us ? i would rather call it tactical retreat we just don't want to wast our time staying up late at night when ever the US nation fell like it. if i called you up every 2 day and tolde you not to go bed before 3 at night only because i said so, how long would you keep doing it ? =) it is wast of time and if you want to play the game like that then it is your choice but we chose not to And how was fair for denmark generate pb in savannah vs usa while they where sleeping? You seams to not understand the principle of double standard, now stop bark and drink the bitter cup to the end. The real dane face : you betrayed pirates for sweden, you menaced and bully usa exploiting their weak timezone in eu prime, (you even failed to generate savannah normally cause sorry was killing your farm fleet so you needed to use bomb exploit) You tryed to convince pirates to go on your side couple weeks ago, You try the same on usa, maybe you forgot what you did on both of them? so they answered both the same: not in thousand years, , you menaced both, they both told you to gtfo. and now you ask for fairness, i think you cant even imaginate the hilarity you are bringing to all of us the amount of tears you dropping is loltastic Edited January 26, 2017 by Lord Vicious
Kloothommel Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Johny Reb said: Our alliance has an advantage in a broader time spectrum of players. The US did not choose Britain or the Dutch because of our language similarities even if those similarities have allowed us to form close bonds. We were at war with the Brits for nearly a year before we joined forces. Our first attempt at a new alliance member which happened before we made peace with the Brits was the Spanish. We worked very hard to make that happen but alas, it fell through. At the beginning of Steam release we were actually allied with the Danes. There was no complaint about our time zone then. We were recently approached by the Danes to switch sides because you all wanted our time zone protection. You didn't mind us having our timezone then. We turned it down for multiple reasons but one big one was that you threatened us at the same time.... join us or we will destroy you (essentially) and the loudest voices in your nation don't even think we have a right to be on this server. Why would we want to show any sympathy to you, considering that. We know you don't show any sympathy for us. We were a tool for you and that was all. The basic truth of whats going on right now is that our actions now are a result of your behavior and for that reason we don't care much about your grievances. You get what you deserve. You have exploited(using US alts to deliver war supplies to a US port you wanted to attack), you have threatened us every time you have approached us for some form of agreement or peace, and then you entered a truce in bad faith, immediately violating the spirit of the agreement and hoodwinking us into canceling a PB that you showed up to anyway with 25 players robbing us of a fun fight in our prime time. So now you get a taste of your own medicine. You get to see how it feels. The Danish fleet is more powerful and more experienced than the US fleet. It is upon us to overcome our deficit and we have done it efficiently and effectively. Don't expect us to apologize for it. If you really want us to change our behavior right now then you must first acknowledge that we have a right to exist on this server. Oh wow. Just wow. Thank you for acknowledging our superiority over you. We will discuss the terms of your surrender soon. And yes, Sir Didimus is my hero. 1
Kloothommel Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Lord Vicious said: And how was fair for denmark generate pb in savannah vs usa while they where sleeping? You seams to not understand the principle of double standard, now stop bark and drink the bitter cup to the end. USA has allies with their prime-time equal to the PB time we set. Big difference.
Johny Reb Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Lord Vicious said: You won 1 pb in a year vs an equal force. i would not push that hard now mkay? Thats not at all remotely true Vicious Most of our equal fights though for the last 6 months or more have been shallow water battles so we do lack victories in our First Rates. Nevertheless we were the first to defeat a fully defended enemy port in 4th rates with the newest mechanics and that has to say something for us. Either way, the way people have spoken of our fleet, an equal fight would be US 25 v15 if you apply the handicap. Of course the US is no longer the left overs of a defeated nation.
Lord Vicious Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kloothommel said: USA has allies with their prime-time equal to the PB time we set. Big difference. Yeah becouse brit-dutch will showup non stop full force for defended savannah indefinitively right? you are funny , if they displaced a fleet there they could not defend something else. still -1 fleet for the coalition dutch -brit vs danes sweden france. you chosed that exactly for that weak spot and now you suffer from exactly the same weak spot they got, how is that unfair? oh right.. becouse you losing.,.. Edited January 26, 2017 by Lord Vicious
Lord Vicious Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 45 minutes ago, E.P. Juel said: Many of our players already have a break momentarily until fix, so yeah you succeeded. US player-base attrition mission accomplished. Well, there is other games to play, NA is not the only one And nothing of value was lost.. nobody will miss the danes trust me have fun
Kloothommel Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, Lord Vicious said: Yeah becouse brit-dutch will showup non stop full force for defended savannah indefinitively right? you are funny , if they displaced a fleet there they could not defend something else. still -1 fleet for the coalition dutch -brit vs danes sweden france. you chosed that exactly for that weak spot and now you suffer from exactly the same weak spot they got, how is that unfair? oh right.. becouse you losing.,.. With the production power of the British empire behind it an extra set of ships there should be no problem.
Lord Vicious Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Johny Reb said: Thats not at all remotely true Vicious Most of our equal fights though for the last 6 months or more have been shallow water battles so we do lack victories in our First Rates. Nevertheless we were the first to defeat a fully defended enemy port in 4th rates with the newest mechanics and that has to say something for us. Either way, the way people have spoken of our fleet, an equal fight would be US 25 v15 if you apply the handicap. Of course the US is no longer the left overs of a defeated nation. We are allies that not stop my brain to work but i prefer not base stuff on opinion but stats and soo far what i know about usa is: so in a year you have some shallow ( irrilevant) 0 firstrate battle won 1 4th rate (wich could be more error and mistake of the enemy then your credit since there is not enought stats for determ if you on a win streak , if you improved, if is your tactics/commander since you cant determ anything with 1 battle won only) and thats it. Denmark is making empty threaths, we all know they weak, their fleet is on paper since it not showup in the last month now you should not fall into their same mistakes empty threaths /bluffing aboutamerican strenght. When there is nothing backing you up (you try that card once vs pirates i recall it not worked well ) You using your timezone as advantage where they probably fatigue to field any good commander/good player, as is your right to do, since they did the same on you. But thats the reality of the story. Hardly anything to cheastbeat in both sides Edited January 26, 2017 by Lord Vicious
Lord Vicious Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kloothommel said: With the production power of the British empire behind it an extra set of ships there should be no problem. And thats show how low your IQ is. Or how badly you faking this stupidity. cmon you can do better. I have 150 ships in my accounts, still i cant field more then 1. The manpower (the players) have nothing to do with the amount of ships we have in stock, expecial if savannah pb is generated in same time of castries or bridgetown or whatever. IF i have 50 ppl able to use firsts, if i need to use 25 for defend usa i will have only enought people to spare for defend 1 more port. And thats exactly how you got savannah in first place. becouse you now usa could not give any hand in eu time. Edited January 26, 2017 by Lord Vicious
Kloothommel Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 Just now, Lord Vicious said: And thats show how low your IQ is. Or how badly you faking this stupidity. cmon you can do better. I have 150 ships in my accounts, still i cant field more then 1. The manpower (the players) have nothing to do with the amount of ships we have in stock, expecial if savannah pb is generated in same time of castries or bridgetown or whatever. IF i have 50 ppl able to use firsts, if i need to use 25 for defend usa i will have only enought to spare for defend only 1 more port. And thats exactly how you got savannah in first place. becouse you now usa could not give any hand in eu time. And that is where your sides numerical superiority comes in
Lord Vicious Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kloothommel said: And that is where your sides numerical superiority comes in Yeah becouse people loved to babysitt another nation 4 ever, right.. also indirectly you admit you chosed that target becouse you now that brits-dutch needed to showup for cover it. Ergo: you exploiting the usa eu time weakness, the same reason of why you QQ in 20 pages of forum about. IF was a legit strategy for you how is now that is not that legit for them? double standards? hipocrisy ? maybe you are that stupid... Edited January 26, 2017 by Lord Vicious
Johny Reb Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lord Vicious said: We are allies that not stop my brain to work but i prefer not base stuff on opinion but stats and soo far what i know about usa is: so in a year you have some shallow ( irrilevant) 0 firstrate battle won 1 4th rate (wich could be more error and mistake of the enemy then your credit since there is not enought stats for determ if you on a win streak , if you improved, if is your tactics/commander since you cant determ anything with 1 battle won only) and thats it. Denmark is making empty threaths, we all know they weak, their fleet is on paper since it not showedup in last month now you should not fall into their same mistakes empty threaths /bluffing of american strenght. When there is nothing backing such proclaim. You using your timezone as advantage where they probably fatigue to field any good commander/good player, as is your right to do, since they did the same on you. But thats the reality of the story. Hardly anything to cheastbeat in both sides Well you miss understand me then LV. My point is not to thump my chest other than to say we are not the struggling, disorganized nation anymore. We are still small and our fleet lacks experience in certain areas but in our present position I believe we are a threat and other countries should take our presence more seriously. Port Battles now are not just pure brawling ability anymore and one trick ponies are gonna have to up their game. It allows the US to jump into the frey as near equals because strategy is just as important as brawling ability. Savannah is a great example. It is true that they only had 19 to our 25 but we were able to take the port without having to sink more than one ship. We chose a very effective strategy and scheduled our battle to give us the best wind. We then placed our fleet between the enemy and the caps we controlled. It wouldn't have made a difference if they had had 25 ships there that day. We aren't using our times zones as an advantage we are using them as payback. 1
Kloothommel Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Johny Reb said: Well you miss understand me then LV. My point is not to thump my chest other than to say we are not the struggling, disorganized nation anymore. We are still small and our fleet lacks experience in certain areas but in our present position I believe we are a threat and other countries should take our presence more seriously. Port Battles now are not just pure brawling ability anymore and one trick ponies are gonna have to up their game. It allows the US to jump into the frey as near equals because strategy is just as important as brawling ability. Savannah is a great example. It is true that they only had 19 to our 25 but we were able to take the port without having to sink more than one ship. We chose a very effective strategy and scheduled our battle to give us the best wind. We then placed our fleet between the enemy and the caps we controlled. It wouldn't have made a difference if they had had 25 ships there that day. We aren't using our times zones as an advantage we are using them as payback. That is still using them. Thanks for admitting
Lord Vicious Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Johny Reb said: Well you miss understand me then LV. My point is not to thump my chest other than to say we are not the struggling, disorganized nation anymore. We are still small and our fleet lacks experience in certain areas but in our present position I believe we are a threat and other countries should take our presence more seriously. Port Battles now are not just pure brawling ability anymore and one trick ponies are gonna have to up their game. It allows the US to jump into the frey as near equals because strategy is just as important as brawling ability. Savannah is a great example. It is true that they only had 19 to our 25 but we were able to take the port without having to sink more than one ship. We chose a very effective strategy and scheduled our battle to give us the best wind. We then placed our fleet between the enemy and the caps we controlled. It wouldn't have made a difference if they had had 25 ships there that day. We aren't using our times zones as an advantage we are using them as payback. You do realize if they have 19 you have 25 all you need to do is sail around since the numbers of ppl in the circle is what make the difference right? you could have scored 0 kill and win aniway So yeah it would have made a lot of difference 25 on 25, becouse with -6 ppl unless they incredibly outplay you in the brawl killing at list 7 ppl losing 0starting with a handicap of -6 , all you needed to do was sail and stay alive even avoiding the fight would have been enought for win. Since all that matters again is how many ppl you have in the circle to contest it, if someone have +1 the circle is his one and he make the points. IS that your only pb win in attack? if is, sorry but you have nothing to be proud of Did you ever lead a pb in the current mechanic? Edited January 26, 2017 by Lord Vicious 1
Kloothommel Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, Lord Vicious said: Yeah becouse people loved to babysitt another nation 4 ever, right.. also indirectly you admit you chosed that target becouse you now that brits-dutch needed to showup for cover it. Ergo: you exploiting the usa eu time weakness, the same reason of why you QQ in 20 pages of forum about. IF was a legit strategy for you how is now that is not that legit for them? double standards? hipocrisy ? maybe you are that stupid... That attitude sure makes you a very dependable ally! 1
Lord Vicious Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Kloothommel said: That attitude sure makes you a very dependable ally! I understand you confused about what a good ally is I made 1 deal in NA with spain and honored it all time, can you remind me plz how many alliance/coalitions your nation changed? 1
Kloothommel Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Lord Vicious said: I understand you confused about what a good ally is I made 1 deal in NA with spain and honored it all time, can you remind me plz how many alliance/coalitions your nation changed? Since the diplo patch? 0 Since i play? Player relation were more volatile then. But we always kept our promises. And howmany times did you reroll nations? Edited January 26, 2017 by Kloothommel
Lord Vicious Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kloothommel said: Since the diplo patch? 0 Since i play? Player relation were more volatile then. But we always kept our promises. answer the question since game started, i bet you cant even recall all the time you changed "player relation where more volatile then" yeah sure maybe yours considering that danes words is worth 0 ps: i not needed the diplo patch for honor my word. made 1 pact march 2016 honored it up to december 2016 as long my clain primarely played as pirates Edited January 26, 2017 by Lord Vicious
Kloothommel Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lord Vicious said: answer the question since game started, i bet you cant even recall all the time you changed "player relation where more volatile then" yeah sure maybe yours ps: i not needed the diplo patch for honor my word. made 1 pact march 2016 honored it up to december 2016 as long my clain primarely played as pirates And the times you changed nation? And backstabbed your former nations? Leaving them in shambles? Edited January 26, 2017 by Kloothommel
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