We Need More Ships

[OlavDeng2]

1 hour ago, Prater said:

Your research is wrong.  Mercury is Russian.  Surprise is French.  And the Frigate is not Swedish.

IIRC the frigate was based on chapman drawings so it would be swedish.

[SirSamuelHood]

1 hour ago, Prater said:

Your research is wrong.  Mercury is Russian.  Surprise is French.  And the Frigate is not Swedish.

 

4 minutes ago, OlavDeng2 said:

IIRC the frigate was based on chapman drawings so it would be swedish.

That's correct, it is modeled after a chapman design. 

[Prater]

I had read Alex's first message, which said Danish, my mistake.

[Destraex]

I want enough ships to lock them by faction..... (runs and hides)

[JollyRoger1516]

15 hours ago, OlavDeng2 said:

IIRC the frigate was based on chapman drawings so it would be swedish.

A ship being designed by a Swede doesn't make it Swedish! More often then not good ship designers would design ships for a variety of nations usually allied ones. Being called Cherubim would make at least the variant we are being presented with a Russian ship.

This is even more so the case with the Surprise - being called Surprise it is the British refit variant although built in France. Considering the British made extensive changes to her top deck to allow for use of more/bigger carronades that isn't something we can easily dismiss.

Also until blueprints are fully accessible the amount of ships cannot be fully counted as ships like the santa cecilia and pirate frigate are heavily limited in their availability. Content although present is only worth something to the entire palyerbase if the entire playerbase can actually access it.

[OlavDeng2]

9 minutes ago, JollyRoger1516 said:

A ship being designed by a Swede doesn't make it Swedish! More often then not good ship designers would design ships for a variety of nations usually allied ones. Being called Cherubim would make at least the variant we are being presented with a Russian ship.

This is even more so the case with the Surprise - being called Surprise it is the British refit variant although built in France. Considering the British made extensive changes to her top deck to allow for use of more/bigger carronades that isn't something we can easily dismiss.

Also until blueprints are fully accessible the amount of ships cannot be fully counted as ships like the santa cecilia and pirate frigate are heavily limited in their availability. Content although present is only worth something to the entire palyerbase if the entire playerbase can actually access it.

IIRC(and correct me if im wrong), she was never actually built. She was only designed by chapman(i at least personally cant find her actual history) so I would put her under swedish ships.

[BungeeLemming]

The frigate was a study design. Chapman's Architectura navalis is a design study in which he firstly introduced his new ship building principals. This book is full of all kinds of vessels. small to big. Trader to privateer and dedicated warship. Its an example of his method. How versetail and useful it is.

That means that very few of these vessels actually saw more than the drawing board. There are some 20-iahvessels which have a dedicated name and described use. For example our Indiaman. It says this is a british indiaman. Then there is the HMS Unicors, a british frigate. La Sirene (fr.frigate) is in there etc.