Macjimm Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 There is but one on a brisk grey sea. She is fast and sleek, the one for me. Set her close hauled or heeled beam reach, She will carry safe to the home beach. Small is fine to bob and weave, you can be sure to take your leave. When the lion chooses to give you chase, she'll be sure to win the race. Touch the wet if over you lean, cause her profile is slim and her lines are clean. No great clutter of cargo here, just enough room to stow my gear. Hide in close to the large ship's lee, Or escape unharmed should she choose to flee. So by now you should have guessed Why this pretty launch is the very best. 3
Bubba Smith Posted October 7, 2016 Author Posted October 7, 2016 how do you find the renomee "good for chasing"? it got no bow chasers, or did you mean "good for racing"? anyways its good for running ;-) Maybe he has mastered the art of sailing in reverse and using rear canons instead.
maturin Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 how do you find the renomee "good for chasing"? it got no bow chasers, or did you mean "good for racing"? anyways its good for running ;-) Control perk?
Sea Archer Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 My favourite is the frigate (Cherubim). The Essex is second best, since aiming with a full broadside is not so comfortable due to the lack of weather deck on the forecastle. For the big ones i really love the Pavel. I don't know why, but it feels somehow better in battles than the other big ones.
3rdguards Posted October 8, 2016 Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) how do you find the renomee "good for chasing"? it got no bow chasers, or did you mean "good for racing"? anyways its good for running ;-) Good for chasing due to its easy sailing and pure speed, yes the bow chasers are a problem (augh) but the speed advantage the reno has over most ships means that it can turn for broadsides without losing enough ground or speed to allow them to escape eventually, and with area control perk, they are almost guaranteed to be stuck Edited October 8, 2016 by 3rdguards
Lurken Posted October 8, 2016 Posted October 8, 2016 Good for chasing due to its easy sailing and pure speed, yes the bow chasers are a problem (augh) but the speed advantage the reno has over most ships means that it can turn for broadsides without losing enough ground or speed to allow them to escape eventually, and with area control perk, they are almost guaranteed to be stuck why not just use a trinco then, atleast it wont take all day to hunt down your prey, nothing larger can outrun it, nothing smaller can out gun it
Mrdoomed Posted October 8, 2016 Posted October 8, 2016 why not just use a trinco then, atleast it wont take all day to hunt down your prey, nothing larger can outrun it, nothing smaller can out gun it I personally hate the trinc. I find it bulky and unwieldy, it turns like garbage and small ships can get on its backside and chew it up. For my play style i love the suprise and would take it any day over the trinc, perhaps he feels the same way. On a side not i also use a fir connie completely rigged for speed and crew and its also better than a trinc to me. Hats off to you guys that can use that beast called trincssourus. 2
Billy Budd Posted October 8, 2016 Posted October 8, 2016 My favorite two ships in the game has to be the Trincomalee and the Victory, not because they are in the game, but because I have visited both these ships many times. I spent much of my younger life in the Royal Navy and have spent many hours aboard the Victory during my 22 year naval life. During the 1960's, the Victory was in the early stages of a complete refit, replacing many rotten timbers caused by the invasion of death watch beetle over many years when she was laid up from active service. She was finally rescued in 1921, after almost having been broken up and since the early sixties, I have seen her slowly reach the stage where she can be seen today. She had a massive overhaul for the 200th anniversary of the Battle of Trafalgar in 2005 and many areas of the ship have since been opened up to the public. You can now visit the bowels of the ship and see the magazines, where those powder monkeys had to fetch up the bags of powder for the gun crews on the higher decks above. You can see far more today on board the Victory, than you were allowed to see thirty years ago. The powder rooms are lined out with copper plating as a risk against sparks. Victory is the pride of the British Navy, even today and is the oldest commissioned warship in existence. The much lesser known vessel of the time, HMS Trincomalee, lies further north, at Hartlepool, where she has been preserved just like the Victory, maybe not as striking, but non the less, she tells the story of life aboard a Frigate of the seventeenth century and is well worth a visit if you ever get the chance. I have visited this ship on several occasions and unlike the Victory she is actually floating in her berth, instead of being dry docked. Whether this is a good thing, I am not so sure, maybe it would be better being dry docked, to preserve the hull of the ship even more. But I must say she does look much better afloat than she would in a dry dock. For those of you who have been on board the Victory, If you think that the decks are low, then you will be amazed how much lower they are on board the Trincomalee, I should say at least six inches less headroom, than her larger sister. She may not be as striking as the Victory, but life aboard a Frigate must have been much less comfortable that it was aboard the ships of the line. Comparing these two ships, you get the feeling how much smaller Frigates were, to the size of the 1st rates, and even these ships were small compared to the battleships of WWI & WWII. Two other ships worth a visit in the UK are the "Mary Rose", Henry VIII's Flag Ship and HMS Warrior, the first ever built iron clad battleship. Both of these ships can be visited in Portsmouth Dockyard. 3
Bramborough Posted October 8, 2016 Posted October 8, 2016 life aboard a Frigate must have been much less comfortable that it was aboard the ships of the line. Not necessarily. I don't presume to know, can only conjecture. But I do know that "quality of life" has little to do with sheer ship size alone. Much more relevant is the ratio of crew-to-ship sizes. Sure, Victory is larger...but also had a much larger crew, and with all the extra space necessarily taken up by more/larger guns/stores/ammo stowage. Without having gone through and calculated, I would suspect than an individual Trincomalee crewman probably enjoyed at least as much, if not slightly more, "personal space" during the course of the ship's daily routine than his counterpart in Victory. During the course of my own 22-yr USN career, I served as ship's company in a variety of vessels ranging from 900-ton minehunter (~50 crew) to 90,000-ton aircraft carrier (~3000 ship's company, ~5000 with airwing embarked). By far the least "comfortable" were those two ships,at the extreme ends of the range. The roomiest, most comfortable ships were those in between: frigates and destroyers between 4000-9000 tons, with crews between 200-320. 2
maturin Posted October 8, 2016 Posted October 8, 2016 Frigate crews had an entire deck devoted to their hammocks, while SoL crew shared space with the guns.
Billy Budd Posted October 8, 2016 Posted October 8, 2016 I would like to see 'Old Ironsides' but I doubt I will ever get the chance now to visit the US, unless of course I win the "lottery". I would then like to sail there aboard one of the Queens and have a holiday of a lifetime. I love the sea and have had many cruise holidays around the Med, on board mostly P&O and a few with Fred Olsen visiting Norway and Iceland. Maybe one day I will get the chance to sail with Cunard. Anyway I am wandering off topic here, so I will revert to ships in NA. I suppose The 'Surprise' has to be one of my favorite ships in game because it has a good compliment of guns, with bow and stern chasers, is reasonably fast and can take a fair amount of damage providing you have a gold version built with strength in mind and a copper bottom, which will add a few more knots when you need it. She can certainly keep pace with smaller rates if handled right. As far as larger ships are concerned, I have to go with the Connie, she can hold her own even with larger ships of the line and can certainly outrun them is necessary. It's a matter of choice I suppose, there is no perfect ship in the game, they all have their for's and against's, it's just a matter of what makes a good all rounder really and there are several that fits the criteria. That's my preference I suppose. 1
MikeCK Posted October 9, 2016 Posted October 9, 2016 I've toured the USS Constitution twice. It's a beautiful ship that has a lot more room than one would think. I'm 6'2" and I could stand up straight and walk on the gun deck. Occasionally I would have to duck my head a but for a soar but not bad at all. She is also very wide so the 24lb guns don't seem to present a problem maneuvering. The berthing deck is a bit lower in the headroom department but not by much. I only had to duck a tad and in about 3-5 inches taller than the average guy On another note, when you see the interior, you can really understand why she was so sturdy and resistant to damage. The diagonal spars are everywhere and the posts are all huge. The ship is just BIG...very American! 2
Lord Vicious Posted October 9, 2016 Posted October 9, 2016 The bellona is the best ship in game manouvrabilty firepower also with hammocks you can have full crew on cannons while have 100+ on sailing, not many ships can do that, the bellona is in a sort of sweet spot regards cannons/crew amount is incredibly tanked look beautiful manouvrable enought for fuck frigs with 2-3 charged volley and not get stern camped, but manouvrable enought for stern camp firstrates my 2nd one is the bellepoule full caronades with round shape + low figure allow a bellepoule to stick near to a firstrate and kill it if not get boarded is a ship that really punch over his weight and tank over his class 2
Lockheed Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 how do you find the renomee "good for chasing"? it got no bow chasers, or did you mean "good for racing"? anyways its good for running ;-) It is very good to tag ships on OW map.
William Livingston Alden Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 there is no special ship I love and or hate, as long I can shoot someone in the back to reduce the crew and cannons in a battle. so every ship (with cannons) is good because the gameplay is reduced to do that. but in the good old days it was the constituion (nerfed and useless in port battles), the frigate, the bellona and the snow.
Sire Trinkof Posted October 10, 2016 Posted October 10, 2016 Long time not loghed in ... But I have to share my belle poule love ... Faster than a trinc (when loaded) due to the low weight of guns Good turning Live oak.... Just un-sinkable... With rigging specialist and reinforced sails, loaded with caronades... She is a beast, no other 5th rate has this mix of speed resistance and turning. Caronades makes the job to keep up with firepower. My second choice would be the surprise .
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