We never lost...Mr Jeheil,we never lost Spaniards,Danes and Frenchies..and u know it!

[Guest]

You just used Shae's data to make the claim that France + Spain > Dutch. By the very same logic, that data makes the claim that Swedes = Brits. You can't pick and choose, it's either accurate or it isn't, whether you directly made the claim or not.

 

I don't mind people using their own observations or judgment, I just find that drawing these conclusions from a single late-stage (aka "Who the hell even votes anymore?") voting round is a disservice, bordering on being dishonest. Would far sooner have trusted the word from gauging TS channel participation and whatnot than that.

 

Here's a proper set of data collection that if I'm not mistaken even has access to the 'missing' votes given the structure of the net voting system from back when everybody was voting.I don't know who made it and wasn't going to put it up at first, so if anyone doesn't want it to be made available I'd be happy to take it down. It doesn't apply to the current situation, just the past one, so it's more of an interesting read. And if personal observations is anything to go by, it absolutely nailed mine at least.

 

Link

Edited October 7, 2016 by Guest

[PIerrick de Badas]

[Lord Vicious]

Yes, when asked by him to do this, outnumbered a few times Lord Vicious meanwhile escaped when he had an advantage.

 

 

 

You're wrong about numbers mate:

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/16750-alliances-and-the-player-base/

 

I escaped wut? where'? stop say shit, and post screen. or stfu 

[Lord Vicious]

If memory serves, you ruled the Bahamas and the Coast of the US.... The Brits have controlled Panama through to Mexico for a majority if not entirety of the servers life time... Now, that's not saying that the Pirates haven't controlled huge swaths of territory, and I +1 to that as the Pirates have time and time again proved to be more than worthy opponents.4

 

And Based on your standards, you should be showing the Brits the same respect, as we currently control the largest number of ports on the map. Its a game of give and take Vicious. If you want respect you have to give it.

 

I writed that pirates shared ownership of first position continuously with brits  but we peaked even higher then brits (and no brits owned gulf of mexico briefly it was usa when i got it, then spain, then brit, then pirate/spain for a long time and when ausezfc left brit , brit not got a foot on it for months),  but difference is,  we did it alone (1 clan 2 clan top)  not coalitions.     Cant recall any danes or spain in our 2 usa campaign,or in the gulf of mexico or panama  pirates work where mainly "clan work" not even "pirate nation" work.

 

But also pirate diminishing was a huge coalition effort, as soon swedish went alone vs us, they lasted 48h , and even in this event they called a massive danish-france fleet to help them. 

 

Even today i not see brits bringing first in front of mt, (they never did even when brits could form up 5 25x fleet.) as i do with my clan, in front of Kpr, daily also brits 90% of time hide in kpr unless you can undock with 30-40 ppl, the fear to face us on equal numbers is evident, you now  i now that on equal br brits have no chance, so i understand, but if all you do is zerg and then think you are good  you will have a big wakeup when you gonna face us (see port antonio you not even dare to attack it 25 on 25)   since in a zerg you will not learn much.  I can bet that if i ask you to post a sceen of a brit fleet who own a pirate fleet with -40- 60% br (as we do vs brits costantly)  you cant provide me one. 

 

In the last 5 days around kpr we captured 12 firsts, captured 30 2nd, and sink 250+ ships, losing what 15 firsts (in 3-4 different fights, using pretty much your own captured ships vs you for cause even more dmg)  vs overwhelming fleets   15 vs 30  18 vs 30,   and winning every other fight even outnumbered by -40% -60% br.

 

Your issue is that the general brit population hide and do pve activity only, if we not come to you, i will never see a 20 brit fleet in front of mt. Expecial with huge ships , seams that brits lost their big clans, the one that where doing big port assault vs our clans , all your fleets are a huge conglomerate of 10+ clans with 2-3 ppl each.

 

you think that  you can learn something in fights like this?   90% of brits cant even manual sail.   no offence srupl i watched your fight in first vs tommy, and was awful, like when we got your 3 vic, exploding on each other thinking that in that way you will avoid to deliver us the ships (thats lack of basic knowledge of the game) and you are an "average" brit , you could not believe what we see. ppl tryng to grape our ships when we still full armor,  and they are rear admirals in buc-vics etc etc  

 

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/267227358847453330/9DC7B96E546B4C6F867532186F460EDB6C919129/

[vazco]

In the last 5 days around kpr we captured 12 firsts, captured 30 2nd, and sink 250+ ships, losing what 15 firsts (in 3-4 different fights, using pretty much your own captured ships vs you for cause even more dmg)

 

Well, I guess I found this battle where you lost all  those first rates:

(1:13:15 for results)

So you're saying that apart from this battle that I saw, you sunk 250+ ships, loosing only 2 first rates? That's "almost" unbeliveable

Edited October 7, 2016 by vazco

[Lord Vicious]

Well, I guess I found this battle where you lost all  those first rates:

(1:13:15 for results)

So you're saying that apart from this battle that I saw, you sunk 250+ ships, loosing only 2 first rates? That's "almost" unbeliveable

i writed 12,  but again all you do is zerg,   the day you will come vs us 25 on 25 you will understand how 30-40 vs  15-20 is pointless         the general brit op is not inclined towards pvp and take risk going vs superior forces for improve,  is just a conglomerate of shitload of ppl undocking kpr in 40-50  or nothing at all.  (you now how many first i have between my accounts? like 20+ so is not a prob lose a couple, we do 2 day of gank and we get another 10)

 

we either capture 3-4 first in a couple of h, losing nothing the entire day  or fight 15 firsts vs 30+  , there is no middleground.        There is never a brit fleet of 10 ppl going around for pvp, (never seen any aroudn mt) only a swarm for protect your precious pvee area

 

 

 

that video is awful, 20 ppl talking not a single commander, no formation no strategy lol, just ppl thinking they are good becouse they win 30 vs 15 lol,   cant wait to see you come for port antonio

[Richard Dryfus]

that video is awful, 20 ppl talking not a single commander, no formation no strategy lol, just ppl thinking they are good becouse they win 30 vs 15 lol,   cant wait to see you come for port antonio

 

Lol, maybe its our way of saying that we dont need silence and organization to destroy you.

[Nikodemus]

i writed 12,  but again all you do is zerg,   the day you will come vs us 25 on 25 you will understand how 30-40 vs  15-20 is pointless         the general brit op is not inclined towards pvp and take risk going vs superior forces for improve,  is just a conglomerate of shitload of ppl undocking kpr in 40-50  or nothing at all.  (you now how many first i have between my accounts? like 20+ so is not a prob lose a couple, we do 2 day of gank and we get another 10)

 

we either capture 3-4 first in a couple of h, losing nothing the entire day  or fight 15 firsts vs 30+  , there is no middleground.        There is never a brit fleet of 10 ppl going around for pvp, (never seen any aroudn mt) only a swarm for protect your precious pvee area

 

 

 

that video is awful, 20 ppl talking not a single commander, no formation no strategy lol, just ppl thinking they are good becouse they win 30 vs 15 lol,   cant wait to see you come for port antonio

Ok Vicious i try not to get on you because i do think your a good fleet commander but stop already. You run around bragging about ganking people and taking 1st rates and then when you are faced with more ships you call foul and say its a zerg. You claim to want the Fair fight with your great fleet but in the total history of the game you have never challenged another great fleet. When you ran into Brits while US you switched to pirates knowing it made the US weak and you could beat them. When you came to Carlisle you new that During the NA time Zone the clans did not have the force to fight you. After we where able to beg borrow and steal enough ships to put up a fight you left to jump on the US again that was the weakest faction in the game. SORRY under your leadership has never challenged another Strong fleet you look for the easy target and move along when things get to tough. Did you ever try to fight RUS/SLRN/BRITS when they where Strong? Hell when the GB coalition Fleet was fighting Danes/Spanish/French SORRY was nowhere to be found. I would guess the Spanish fleet right now would give you fits, im sure the Dutch would run you to ground.

 

You have good players your a good PB leader stop being a jackass.

[Llewellyn Jones RN]

Lord V I have read here about how we are poor sailors who don't know how to manual sail or for that matter sail at all and yes we don't have a regular battle commander and this is a problem for us to deal with but fighting for 9 months 1-2 port battles a day then dealing with open world battles and the braying public outside KPR has forced many of our better commanders in to retirement and yes right now we don't have one clan able to field 20+ first rates.

But we offered to arrange a fight even fleets but you turned it down PA is not a suitable location as pubbies will enter on our side so you come and sit outside KPR with your fleet and expect us to roll out and match you this is not possible with the amounts we have just sailing around trying not to get ganked.

You say come to Matthew Town but if we come there in our Firsts we will be jumped as I would expect by every pirate who could sail a first rate the same as when you come to KPR. With reguards to your loses 12 + 14 =26 lost we have lost 14 + 11 captured in open world ganks so you appear to be down one as for your stock of ships I think I can match that and there are many here that really do not care enough about thier pixel ships to be worried about it.

To be honest and I am sure Alan will tell you that you would have much more respect from the British nation if you didn't brag about your victories and your use of language at times is abysmal but then you are a pirate.

[Lytse Pier]

I had an terrible dream last night sailing on my trusty frigate "Welgevaren":

 

-Sir, the French are here with at least fifty ships!

-Bring me my red shirt!

-Red shirt? Why?

-So you won't despair when I get wounded in battle and keep on fighting 't ill the end.

 

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Two days later ....

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-Sir, Lord Vicious is here!

-Bring me my brown pants!

 

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P.S.: from now on all my crews clothes are pink with yellow dots.

[vazco]

P.S.: from now on all my crews clothes are pink with yellow dots.

 

Hm, I didn't get this one...

[Guest]

But also pirate diminishing was a huge coalition effort, as soon swedish went alone vs us, they lasted 48h , and even in this event they called a massive danish-france fleet to help them. 

 

Bahahaha.   Who are you trying to convince, others or yourself?

 

The Swedes and the Pirates had a 1v1 for A MONTH. Check Jeheil's clips yourself, August 22 (when the Swedes switched sides and the Dutch left the pirates entirely) to September 19 (When the pirates bought a glitched flag from a French port).

 

Now, the largest nation (Your own words!) failed to break out against one of the smallest nations in the game. For a MONTH. That's the most pathetic performance I've seen in the game so far.

 

You had over a dozen Swedish ports to attack in pirate waters where we received zero help from any other nation. And yet you cry about the Danes helping at Macao - maybe you shouldn't have taken a Danish port, genius? If you want to complain about the French helping at English Harbour, then maybe you shouldn't have bought a glitchy flag from a French port, and planted a flag AGAINST a French homewater port, genius?

 

Full of shit as usual. Now try to spin this shit into a win. 

[Lord Vicious]

Ok Vicious i try not to get on you because i do think your a good fleet commander but stop already. You run around bragging about ganking people and taking 1st rates and then when you are faced with more ships you call foul and say its a zerg. You claim to want the Fair fight with your great fleet but in the total history of the game you have never challenged another great fleet. When you ran into Brits while US you switched to pirates knowing it made the US weak and you could beat them. When you came to Carlisle you new that During the NA time Zone the clans did not have the force to fight you. After we where able to beg borrow and steal enough ships to put up a fight you left to jump on the US again that was the weakest faction in the game. SORRY under your leadership has never challenged another Strong fleet you look for the easy target and move along when things get to tough. Did you ever try to fight RUS/SLRN/BRITS when they where Strong? Hell when the GB coalition Fleet was fighting Danes/Spanish/French SORRY was nowhere to be found. I would guess the Spanish fleet right now would give you fits, im sure the Dutch would run you to ground.

 

You have good players your a good PB leader stop being a jackass.

 

 

We faced 25 britain first rates in carslile and defeated them (then the britain who recorded the fight removed the video cause was shameful for your side), and they where all slrn kin fts etc etc   And do i rarely brag about ganking firsts  , i am just surprise how is easy to get 10 in 4-5 days around jamaica,    if you notice our recruitment thread i not post  the battle screen but just the ship screen for showing you that the firsts we lose are tecnically the one we captured from you.

 

What i post is  battle screens of equal br, slightly superior or screens where we win with -40  -70% br go check recruitment thread for things like this:

 

And about your dear USA, you only eated their propaganda they where able to form up 40-50 ppl  vs us on the first war, and they do manage to match our fleet in AYS, there is the video in our recruitment thread on the very start of it, but they shared your same issue,  10 clans with 3-5 ppl each in ts3 no commander no leadership, 14 ship lost 0 kill.

 

 

Also sorry back then was  90% usa time, we where 30+ only at my gmt+1 time   4.00 6.00  (02 04 server time)i would not have faced SLRN becouse at SLRN time i got 10 ppl on  so not was a choice, but a gameplay time difference, and tbh seeing how RUBLi where killing 25 slrn fleet taking 0 losses  SLRn not impressed me whatsoever.  Where is 20+ SLRn now? i can field 20-23 first as SORRY,    Slrn can? Brits can? Kin can ?  you are in  a nation x3 our.  So who made a better work on our respective clans?

 

Can you post me a screen where one of your clan win with -70% br? then your enemy? vs us in front of mt?

 

1900 br vs

5000+ 

[Lord Vicious]

Lord V I have read here about how we are poor sailors who don't know how to manual sail or for that matter sail at all and yes we don't have a regular battle commander and this is a problem for us to deal with but fighting for 9 months 1-2 port battles a day then dealing with open world battles and the braying public outside KPR has forced many of our better commanders in to retirement and yes right now we don't have one clan able to field 20+ first rates.

But we offered to arrange a fight even fleets but you turned it down PA is not a suitable location as pubbies will enter on our side so you come and sit outside KPR with your fleet and expect us to roll out and match you this is not possible with the amounts we have just sailing around trying not to get ganked.

You say come to Matthew Town but if we come there in our Firsts we will be jumped as I would expect by every pirate who could sail a first rate the same as when you come to KPR. With reguards to your loses 12 + 14 =26 lost we have lost 14 + 11 captured in open world ganks so you appear to be down one as for your stock of ships I think I can match that and there are many here that really do not care enough about thier pixel ships to be worried about it.

To be honest and I am sure Alan will tell you that you would have much more respect from the British nation if you didn't brag about your victories and your use of language at times is abysmal but then you are a pirate.

 

 

The huge difference is

 

we you win you win by bringing 30-35 ships vs 20

when we do  and we post screen is becouse we win by -50 -60 -70% br        and sorry if i brag when 1900 br defeat 5000,  while your guys think they are in the position to brag when 35 first defeat 18,   evidently my clan can afford such losses,  also thx to the fact that we capture shitload of your firsts.  So for us losing that ships for causing even more kills while training in a harsh enviroment     is a no loss

 

 

Our screeners cant bring your 35+ firsts in a battle all they have is conny and frigs, so if you wanna go port antonio you can do it any moment you just not want to,     and lets face it  fighting 25 perfect 5-3 ships with golden modules of a single clan coordinated in 1 ts3 who know each other etc,  is something you cant afford. 

[Nikodemus]

We faced 25 britain first rates in carslile and defeated them (then the britain who recorded the fight removed the video cause was shameful for your side), and they where all slrn kin fts etc etc   And do i rarely brag about ganking firsts  , i am just surprise how is easy to get 10 in 4-5 days around jamaica,    if you notice our recruitment thread i not post  the battle screen but just the ship screen for showing you that the firsts we lose are tecnically the one we captured from you

OK some facts about Carlisle some you know some you may not, we had to barrow about 12 first rates for the fight. more then 10 of the players in the battle had never been in a 1st rate port battle. Like 5 of thoughs first time sailing a 1st was leaving KPR and sailing to Carlisle for the fight. , You won the battle know doubt. But you also know it was one or two small mistakes made in the first few min of the fight that gave you the edge.

[Crowley]

Expecting an organised port battle at five in the bloody morning might also explain some things.