Christendom Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 32 minutes ago, rediii said: As if this would be supported by nations. cmon man you're better than that. I think we can both agree that this seems to happen frequently and disproportionately to the GB/US/VP side. An no that's not another accusation. You are correct though, I shouldn't jump to accusations. It is however increasingly annoying having this happen. Regardless of whether or not this was an alt or a player that doesn't know what he's doing, joining a PB and then immediately should be a tribunal offense.
Captain Alexander Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 I do believe they support anything that can give them advantage in PB's.. Just look at 1st and 4th rate fleets appear from the air in front of PB ports
Christendom Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, Kloothommel said: Is that an Alt action every time a pubbie joins and leaves? Howmany tribunals on the subject were actually false accusations? Until the devs implement a way to stop this from happening it should be a tribunal post every time. Players leaving the battle immediately after joining and hurting one side or the other should be a punishable offense. It has been in the past. It's not the players responsibility to explain the finer points of how this game works to every newb player and your mention of the "inner circle" bullshit doesn't help. There's no inner circle excluding people from port battles. Just don't join a god damn 1st rate battle with a 5th rate. If this was an alt it should be punished. It it was a new player they should still be reprimanded. Neither of which is our responsibility.
Guest sruPL Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 This Pirat165 might be alt or pubby, but I've seen him so far in 3 PBs. Always in Surprise and speaks German, that is not good and something must be done (friendly warning by Devs or explanation)
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 IMO there should be no discrimination ( and more so transferring responsibility to devs when it should be player's... wtf... ) especially if there's no griefing intent. The same issue with joining PBs without being on the organized roster happens since forever, it is not a new thing. So it may well happen that he simply joins out of "want to have fun". Why you guys always think the worst possible scenario is a let down. What about you guys reach him through PM ? Anyway back to the thread purpose... Many thanks for all the Port battles videos. Very nice to see big fleet action. 2
Guest sruPL Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hethwill said: IMO there should be no discrimination ( and more so transferring responsibility to devs when it should be player's... wtf... ) especially if there's no griefing intent. The same issue with joining PBs without being on the organized roster happens since forever, it is not a new thing. So it may well happen that he simply joins out of "want to have fun". Why you guys always think the worst possible scenario is a let down. What about you guys reach him through PM ? Anyway back to the thread purpose... Many thanks for all the Port battles videos. Very nice to see big fleet action. Some of us tried to talk with him in a PB, but it's hard to communicate with him, not a talkative guy. I didn't bother because I saw him only once in PB, then second PB and now third. Sure he might be doing this for fun, but then he destroys the fun of 1 guy that did not make it to PB or 24 other guys in PB. I don't think the enemies would resign from using 1 ship to equalize chances in PB.
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Not saying you are wrong, just saying that expecting the Developers to take care of it is a incorrect presumption - especially when there's alts taking spots that could be used for other players as well. But let's not get muddy. Back to the subject, seeing the amount of Port Battles scheduled for today we should see a lot of action, both at interdiction level and inside the ports.
Grundgemunkey Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Hethwill said: Not saying you are wrong, just saying that expecting the Developers to take care of it is a incorrect presumption - especially when there's alts taking spots that could be used for other players as well. But let's not get muddy. Back to the subject, seeing the amount of Port Battles scheduled for today we should see a lot of action, both at interdiction level and inside the ports. griefing is not isolated to nation v nation ....there may be rogue players in all nations that enjoy spoiling others game play even though they play for same nation ....it may be a bit of a surprise to you but there are such people out there getting their kicks from this ... Pirat165 may very well not be an alt ..but he has crashed in on 3 port battles now and is spoiling the game for 49 other players.. its not like after 3 port battles he can claim he didnt know ....im not sure why devs would want to turn a blind eye to 49 of their customers enjoyment of the game been spoilt ,,plus all this accusation and counter accusation , bad blood it causes in the game and forums ... would it be so hard to create a in game port battle roster with a slot for battle commander who can issue port battle perks and only these people can enter the port battle ...can have as many slots as you see fit in case someone gets screened out 1
Kloothommel Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Grundgemunkey said: griefing is not isolated to nation v nation ....there may be rogue players in all nations that enjoy spoiling others game play even though they play for same nation ....it may be a bit of a surprise to you but there are such people out there getting their kicks from this ... Pirat165 may very well not be an alt ..but he has crashed in on 3 port battles now and is spoiling the game for 49 other players.. its not like after 3 port battles he can claim he didnt know ....im not sure why devs would want to turn a blind eye to 49 of their customers enjoyment of the game been spoilt ,,plus all this accusation and counter accusation , bad blood it causes in the game and forums ... would it be so hard to create a in game port battle roster with a slot for battle commander who can issue port battle perks and only these people can enter the port battle ...can have as many slots as you see fit in case someone gets screened out So, a lobby? 1
Grundgemunkey Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, Kloothommel said: So, a lobby? no just a mechanism where you can given a permission .to join a port battle ...not really thought how it would work ,,,maybe a flag or letter that is traded to you in port and these allow entrance to a port battle if they are in the hold of your ship
Christendom Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Hethwill said: IMO there should be no discrimination ( and more so transferring responsibility to devs when it should be player's... wtf... ) especially if there's no griefing intent. The same issue with joining PBs without being on the organized roster happens since forever, it is not a new thing. So it may well happen that he simply joins out of "want to have fun". Why you guys always think the worst possible scenario is a let down. What about you guys reach him through PM ? Anyway back to the thread purpose... Many thanks for all the Port battles videos. Very nice to see big fleet action. Joining a line ship battle in a 5th rate and leaving is griefing and has been punishable via tribunal in the past. It diminishes the ability of one side or the other to orchestrate the battle properly. No one is mentioning a list. Players join battles on their own and while we prefer it to be organized, if they are in the right ship and actually stick around they can help. Leaving the battle right after it starts needs to be a reprimand that comes from the devs, not the players. I'm not exactly sure how you even think it could be the players responsibility. Find out what country he comes from via IP and send him an official mail from a moderator.
Lord Vicious Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) On 25/2/2017 at 9:00 PM, Christendom said: Now now LV, it wasn't too long ago you were singing our praises and sharing in the fun of our evening campaigns. Funny you didn't call them cheap victories when you were posting stuff like this..... Our coalition managed to hold it's own yesterday, without your esteemed leadership. I'm not too worried. Oddly enough our only recent "failure" just happened to be yours. Good luck in retirement. There's a couple good battle videos posted on here if you want to take notes on how to not throw battles. lol you such a fake, i never praise your nightflips, i told you to use it, abuse it and you agreed, so now dont predent you something different and i use it for mack the danes, Difference between me and you? i tell you same thing before and now, you change opinion depending on who you talking with and where. In priv what i told you? as well in forums when thomas pain went around bragging, you still not have a single firstrate win 25 on 25 so dont think you good since you still not got a single real test I adviced you to not be cocky since the moment you gonna face real fleet usa will be done. on difference of 7up tryng to sabotage coalition help towards dutch cause they have personal issue with the dutch, while pretend all is cool. ps: 2-3 weeks lets see how many showup to defend american coast ps: you defended ays becouse 1 toxic manage to tag 7 spain and keep them outside the pb until time for join pb exipired allowing you to again not face a full fleet Edited February 27, 2017 by Lord Vicious
Jeheil Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) Could some kind soul put a summary of todays biffo's in and any screenies out there. I had to work work so could only sneaky twitch snipe in meetings. Thanks Amplify and Babay for the streams. PS I like this thread lets keep other melarkie out of it, I would be for it being moderated and non-relevant stuff just deleted. Edited February 28, 2017 by Jeheil 2
BABAY Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Santo Domingo The Danes celebrate the victory, and mock the captives Lord Vicious 6
Twan Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) Fantastic organisation on both sides yesterday evening.. Any video from Ponce? Edited February 28, 2017 by Twan 1
Celtiberofrog Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) Puerto Plata PB: Very good attack from USA, congrats gents !! Spanish had to deal with one of these "bad days" that happen from time to time... We came to help our allies, we fought and we failed...sorry Danes for losing this region. Anyway, it was an honor to fight for our allies and to fight against the determined USA fleet. Edited February 28, 2017 by Celtiberofrog 12
Guest sruPL Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 6 hours ago, rediii said: We did a wonderful fleet 180 at 15:00. good fight! Good fight redii
Chijohnaok Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Celtiberofrog said: Puerto Plata PB: Very good attack from USA, congrats gents !! Spanish had to deal with one of these "bad days" that happen from time to time... We came to help our allies, we fought and we failed...sorry Danes for losing this region. Anyway, it was an honor to fight for our allies and to fight against the determined USA fleet. The Spanish put up a determined fight at Puerto Plata. Thanks. I'm sure that we will see you again soon (Islamorada or Morgan's Bluff most likely). 1
Surathani Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) 23 hours ago, Lord Vicious said: on difference of 7up tryng to sabotage coalition help towards dutch cause they have personal issue with the dutch, while pretend all is cool. ps: 2-3 weeks lets see how many showup to defend american coast ps: you defended ays becouse 1 toxic manage to tag 7 spain and keep them outside the pb until time for join pb exipired allowing you to again not face a full fleet 7Up Went to the U.S to not only make the coalition stronger, but also to let the Dutch players lead their nation in there own time zones. Funny how you told me on teamspeak this was a good idea, just to whine about it here. I mean there was you me and Agustus and who else in this conversation? Next time I will take notes of what you say, so you can refer back to them. o7 Edited February 28, 2017 by Surathani
Lord Vicious Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Surathani said: 7Up Went to the U.S to not only make the coalition stronger, but also to let the Dutch players lead their nation in there own time zones. Funny how you told me on teamspeak this was a good idea, just to whine about it here. I mean there was you me and Agustus and who else? Next time I will takes notes of what you say for you. Coalition was stronger with 7up leading dutch, then helping "nightflips" even if usa is in horrible need of good commanders. what we obtained now is a full 25 nightflip nation and a headless nation (wich where more helpful then usa in term of numbers and timezone) So yeah initially seams a good idea, when i figure out you left dutch headless , un organized, for nightflips for your personal problems nope.
Surathani Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Lord Vicious said: Coalition was stronger with 7up leading dutch, then helping "nightflips" even if usa is in horrible need of good commanders. what we obtained now is a full 25 nightflip nation and a headless nation (wich where more helpful then usa in term of numbers and timezone) So yeah initially seams a good idea, when i figure out you left dutch headless , un organized, for nightflips for your personal problems nope. And how do you think a nation gets organized? When it has a strong alliance to help it get there. Smart idea, indeed. How many night flip battles you see us fight yesterday? Edited February 28, 2017 by Surathani 1
Christendom Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Lord Vicious said: Coalition was stronger with 7up leading dutch, then helping "nightflips" even if usa is in horrible need of good commanders. what we obtained now is a full 25 nightflip nation and a headless nation (wich where more helpful then usa in term of numbers and timezone) So yeah initially seams a good idea, when i figure out you left dutch headless , un organized, for nightflips for your personal problems nope. The USA and it's horrible need of good commanders has managed to win more 25 v 25 attacks than the self anointed best commander in the game.....You. I don't think you've won a single attack yet in the new system have you? I do suppose you'd have to actually participate in an attack and not worry about your win/loss record though. It's funny how 2 weeks ago you were singing our praises on getting our act together, having good commanders and bragging about the night flips only to have your tune change when things don't go your way. Make up your mind dude. Props to the captains/commanders in all Eastern and Western Alliance groups who actually take on the risk of attacking and leading fights in this heavily defender favored system. It's not an easy meta to break and it takes a lot of guts to lead a group of guys knowing how heavily the deck is stacked in favor of the other side. It's easier for some to hide behind forum posts and talk about past victories that don't matter. Major kudos, especially over the past week. Now back to the fight videos Edited February 28, 2017 by Christendom 4
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