Loco Bandito Posted August 31, 2016 Author Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) Pirates want blood, Nationals want ports. Edited August 31, 2016 by Loco Bandito
Mrdoomed Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Pirates want blood, Nationals want ports. Pirates learn tactics, nationals learn excuses. 1
Kawazz Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 It was a bad night, the guy calling the battle had a hardware failure right as the lines were meeting. It went to shit fast and the pirates got us in a weakened state. To me its a throwaway and doesn't mean much. The only factor that was odd was the lack of damage dealt towards the pirates.
Rhodry Heidenrich Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) This is not why the Brit/US alliance changed tactics... But those matters are being dealt with. Why tactics are changed doesn't matter when the end result is an absolute shut out. Unfortunate that the shot caller for the BRITUS had a problem per Koiz response, but that's why you need to have more than one person to lead the troops. BLACK wouldn't fold up and get rolled if the person commanding the battle dropped. Edited September 1, 2016 by Rhodry Heidenrich 1
Sickerthansars Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) are USA players still trying to say the pirates have more players/unbalanced? really this is still their go to excuse? It was a bad night, the guy calling the battle had a hardware failure right as the lines were meeting. It went to shit fast and the pirates got us in a weakened state. To me its a throwaway and doesn't mean much. The only factor that was odd was the lack of damage dealt towards the pirates. You dont do much damage when you fail to hit your target 3/4ths of the time, or give your enemy below the water line shots all day which i see nats do time after time after time on pvp2 Edited September 1, 2016 by Sickerthansars
Kawazz Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 are USA players still trying to say the pirates have more players/unbalanced? really this is still their go to excuse? You dont do much damage when you fail to hit your target 3/4ths of the time, or give your enemy below the water line shots all day which i see nats do time after time after time on pvp2 This is not what happened.
Ulrich Von Lichtenstien Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 It was a bad night, the guy calling the battle had a hardware failure right as the lines were meeting. It went to shit fast and the pirates got us in a weakened state. To me its a throwaway and doesn't mean much. The only factor that was odd was the lack of damage dealt towards the pirates. The reason you don't do much damage is all ya'll do is shoot sails. Hard to do damage that way. 3
Loco Bandito Posted September 1, 2016 Author Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) This is not what I am talking about. We have changed our tactics on a grand scale due to some reasons I will not go into on these forums, they are being dealt with in other discussions.How can you say you have change tactics when you avoid us and won't fight us and go pull flags for empty ports. If anything you have changed strategy. This whole port battle system sucks you guys know that we will turn up on mass to fight at Port Antonio so you go and pull flags at other ends of the map.Since you and Brit and US got your asses handed to you all you all have done is avoid a epic first rate battle. Why? Could it be you ran out of boats and go back to 4/5 dura stuff just like US did after we handed it to them up along Florida. You guys think we care about ports and wiping out ports off us is a victory. I can tell you now we had a clan meeting and we want you to take it all take us back to one port, so that way we don't have to go looking for pvp. You guys are pathetic it's a pvp server and all you do is avoid it for pvp. Here is a novel gentleman idea lets just agree on somewhere to fight or one port and make the game fun for everyone instead of you guys being carebears, for heavens sake you two are the largest nations population size on the server and I'm sick of carry crackers for your wine. Be a man and let's fight, no wonder people leave the server, and I can tell you the hardcore guys are coming Pirate because of both your nations carebear alliance they said its boring and they want pvp. Last I checked it was a pvp server. So have fun playing change the pixel to a different colour and tell mum yay I didn't lose a boat today so she doesn't turn your computer off. I hope me being blunt fires you guys up because we are getting bored and camping your capital looking for a fight is getting boring. So invite us for a fight. There's a port wipe coming so why care about ports so much? P.S. You can't trust anyone Hodo, Brits, Dutch and US already spilled the beans on your so called tactics too lol. Edited September 1, 2016 by Loco Bandito 2
Yar Matey Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 How can you say you have change tactics when you avoid us and won't fight us and go pull flags for empty ports. If anything you have changed strategy. This whole port battle system sucks you guys know that we will turn up on mass to fight at Port Antonio so you go and pull flags at other ends of the map. Since you and Brit and US got your asses handed to you all you all have done is avoid a epic first rate battle. Why? Could it be you ran out of boats and go back to 4/5 dura stuff just like US did after we handed it to them up along Florida. You guys think we care about ports and wiping out ports off us is a victory. I can tell you now we had a clan meeting and we want you to take it all take us back to one port, so that way we don't have to go looking for pvp. You guys are pathetic it's a pvp server and all you do is avoid it for pvp. Here is a novel gentleman idea lets just agree on somewhere to fight or one port and make the game fun for everyone instead of you guys being carebears, for heavens sake you two are the largest nations population size on the server and I'm sick of carry crackers for your wine. Be a man and let's fight, no wonder people leave the server, and I can tell you the hardcore guys are coming Pirate because of both your nations carebear alliance they said its boring and they want pvp. Last I checked it was a pvp server. So have fun playing change the pixel to a different colour and tell mum yay I didn't lose a boat today so she doesn't turn your computer off. I hope me being blunt fires you guys up because we are getting bored and camping your capital looking for a fight is getting boring. So invite us for a fight. There's a port wipe coming so why care about ports so much? P.S. You can't trust anyone Hodo, Brits, Dutch and US already spilled the beans on your so called tactics too lol. He Loco, its called asymmetric warfare. Yeah, we cant beat you in 1v1 first rate vs first rate battles, so we move to different methods to win. Also, you already wiped out all the first rates US players have and it takes at least a week to replenish most of the lost ships. Sink all of our first rates, then complain we don't take you head on. Here is a thought you may have not considered. WE DON'T HAVE ANY FIRST RATES LEFT TO ENGAGE YOU WITH!
Loco Bandito Posted September 2, 2016 Author Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) You guys still don't get it empty ports is not pvp how many times do I have to repeat it. Port wipe is coming so why not organize some pvp? Heck we will go 15v20? Like I said have the ports change the colour have your so called Victory our guys just want pvp and not waste hours sailing and looking for it while you run. If you want pvp talk to is and say lets pull one flag at time. This was the chat with the 3 big US clans who agreed to but that obviously changed because like Brits they can't keep their word. Least pvp1 has their shit sorted. I hope the devs do merge the servers might sort you carebears out a bit. Further to add if you guys have ran out of 1st rates job done that's all we care about being pirates and harassing. P.S. Hodo of course you would know cheese goes with wine cause that's all you do. Edited September 2, 2016 by Loco Bandito
Sir Texas Sir Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 It was a bad night, the guy calling the battle had a hardware failure right as the lines were meeting. It went to shit fast and the pirates got us in a weakened state. To me its a throwaway and doesn't mean much. The only factor that was odd was the lack of damage dealt towards the pirates. See comments about such below and why ya'll don't do damage. The reason you don't do much damage is all ya'll do is shoot sails. Hard to do damage that way. Yah they spend so much time shooting sails that by time they start shooting ball shot most of them are about half armor or none at all and full of leaks from us focus our fire and making leaks. That and stop shooting my broad side with freaking sail shot and you might just get some damage in there. Every battle there is at least one guy that shoots me with a broad side of chain. I mean it tickles and I like the fact it does little damage, but once again it's the reason your not doing crap for damage. The only thing your hurting by taking our sails down is slowing us from chasing you when you run away after just a few guys (some times it's only one) get sunk. We spend more time chasing you guys in battle than actually doing battle. are USA players still trying to say the pirates have more players/unbalanced? really this is still their go to excuse? You dont do much damage when you fail to hit your target 3/4ths of the time, or give your enemy below the water line shots all day which i see nats do time after time after time on pvp2 And this is why we put so many leaks on them and sink them so fast....we call out who's got leaks and what not over coms to focus our fire. He Loco, its called asymmetric warfare. Yeah, we cant beat you in 1v1 first rate vs first rate battles, so we move to different methods to win. Also, you already wiped out all the first rates US players have and it takes at least a week to replenish most of the lost ships. Sink all of our first rates, then complain we don't take you head on. Here is a thought you may have not considered. WE DON'T HAVE ANY FIRST RATES LEFT TO ENGAGE YOU WITH! So your telling me all the US/Brit 1st rates are sunk? That is a little hard to believe that you guys can't keep producing ships and don't have the materials on hands. Than again when you make folks spend way to much on things that is why no one wants to build them. Why is it taking weeks to build them? DOn't any one you stock pile your resources? Hell if I had the crafting levels and BP's I could pop one out right now myself if I need to. Ok so you don't have 1st rates any more, well than what is your excuse for normal DEEP WATER ports? Don't tell me your running out of those ships too? Ok next excuse....please?
Loco Bandito Posted September 3, 2016 Author Posted September 3, 2016 They like to pull fake flags and do empty PB. For them that is a win.
Rhodry Heidenrich Posted September 4, 2016 Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) Take those ports on a map that's getting reset in the near future, you crazy diamonds. Edited September 4, 2016 by Rhodry Heidenrich 2
Loco Bandito Posted September 4, 2016 Author Posted September 4, 2016 It is working isnt it? And the PvE player of the year award goes to Hodo. Congratulations for avoiding PvP on a PvP server. You truly are a great player who is afraid of everything. GG 3
Juan Alfonso Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 And the PvE player of the year award goes to Hodo. Congratulations for avoiding PvP on a PvP server. You truly are a great player who is afraid of everything. GG He's a perfect match for the USA! BritUS should be renamed the Coalition of Carebears imo. 1
von Beckett Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 This thread has far strayed from what it was originally made about; The battle of Port Antonio. I suggest we talk about the battle, and what happened. I'll start. How did the pirates manage to accomplish such a victory? What tactics were used that outsmarted the british/american fleet command?
Loco Bandito Posted September 5, 2016 Author Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) This thread has far strayed from what it was originally made about; The battle of Port Antonio. I suggest we talk about the battle, and what happened. I'll start. How did the pirates manage to accomplish such a victory? What tactics were used that outsmarted the british/american fleet command? As you can see from the pic, we are mostly one clan, who have been together for a long time. So ts management is easy. simple tactics, stay together, focus fire, no yoloing, no shooting sails, make hull hits count, dont bump into each other, pick off stragglers. We have had numerous fights with these guys where our losses have been minimal. P.S. Also the ts call made was to rush them before they get into formation, most of them had sails up while we where heading to them. We wanted to disrupt the mortar brig. Edited September 5, 2016 by Loco Bandito 1
Rhodry Heidenrich Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 This thread has far strayed from what it was originally made about; The battle of Port Antonio. I suggest we talk about the battle, and what happened. I'll start. How did the pirates manage to accomplish such a victory? What tactics were used that outsmarted the british/american fleet command? One key point that Loco Bandito brought up is that we don't waste time shooting sails. For some strange reason the US/Brits on PVP2 have this fascination with wasting a lot of time shooting sails while we grind their hulls into sawdust with ball. It's not a phenomenon that's isolated to Port Battles, either. The other day a group of US players should have had me dead to rights but since they insisted on shooting my sails in a futile attempt to get me into a position to where they could board... They wound up getting routed. Capturing ships is great, but there comes a point where you need to figure out that it's not going to happen unless you change tactics. They didn't do that. They just chained my sails while I punched holes in their hulls. 2
von Beckett Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 As you can see from the pic, we are mostly one clan, who have been together for a long time. So ts management is easy. simple tactics, stay together, focus fire, no yoloing, no shooting sails, make hull hits count, dont bump into each other, pick off stragglers. We have had numerous fights with these guys where our losses have been minimal. P.S. Also the ts call made was to rush them before they get into formation, most of them had sails up while we where heading to them. We wanted to disrupt the mortar brig. They had a mortar brig? on defense? that seems a bit odd. Calling rush was a good call, as a fleet with sails up will take a long time to start moving, especially in first rates. One key point that Loco Bandito brought up is that we don't waste time shooting sails. For some strange reason the US/Brits on PVP2 have this fascination with wasting a lot of time shooting sails while we grind their hulls into sawdust with ball. It's not a phenomenon that's isolated to Port Battles, either. The other day a group of US players should have had me dead to rights but since they insisted on shooting my sails in a futile attempt to get me into a position to where they could board... They wound up getting routed. Capturing ships is great, but there comes a point where you need to figure out that it's not going to happen unless you change tactics. They didn't do that. They just chained my sails while I punched holes in their hulls. The British on PVP1 had a similar encounter. We had 9 ingermanlands heading for a port battle, when an enemy screen attacked us with 16 ships (mostly second, third and 4th rates), they should have sunk the lot of us. (we even had one of ours isolated in the tag) But they decided to shoot sails. We pounded their hulls and took the wind from them, so at the end of the battle no British ship had been lost, and 5 enemies had sunk (there were multiple heavily damaged ships that fled, including 2 second rates) I'll admit though at the end of the battle even though none of us lost any masts, none of us had any sails left to shoot either.
Mrdoomed Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 One key point that Loco Bandito brought up is that we don't waste time shooting sails. For some strange reason the US/Brits on PVP2 have this fascination with wasting a lot of time shooting sails while we grind their hulls into sawdust with ball. It's not a phenomenon that's isolated to Port Battles, either. The other day a group of US players should have had me dead to rights but since they insisted on shooting my sails in a futile attempt to get me into a position to where they could board... They wound up getting routed. Capturing ships is great, but there comes a point where you need to figure out that it's not going to happen unless you change tactics. They didn't do that. They just chained my sails while I punched holes in their hulls. We play on same server and though i seldom get involved in war or port battles i spend my days hunting US and British trade and econ and i can attest to your claim. Its almot like they dont even understand hw to shoot the hull. To make matters worse they almost all use carros so thier shots land 200 feet short. Its become so bad i no longer hunt econ exclusively. Even though i sail small ships, usually a suprise, unless i have to break a blockade i now routinely attack sols and cap them with zero trouble. They simply aim thier ship at me and follow me around like a baby duck while i shread them then get behind them amd cap them. They all do this. Even with groups of 11 or 15 or more they just shoot your sails lettinf you sink half thier numbers before having to surrender. 1
Loco Bandito Posted September 5, 2016 Author Posted September 5, 2016 We were defending. The decision was made to rush them while they had sails up as our thinking was the Mortar Brig would take the towers out. Plus I said we don't want to be sitting still as the Mortar Brig can hit us. Also the main reason for the rush was we didn't want to fight them at the towers so that they could not have a excuse they had to contend with towers hitting them. So we fought them at there starting spawn point.
Mrdoomed Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 Says the man who ran from me in my Pickle while you were in a 1st rate. So why are so salty with me because we don't want to deal with some of the "skill" that some of your fellow pirates enable before battles. Why would you chase a 1st rate in a pickle? A pickle cant tag a 1st rate ? Im curious of the situation that brought this on so i can see both sides. 1
squedage Posted September 6, 2016 Posted September 6, 2016 this is getting off topic again. SO to be another person to bring it back. I will say since coming over to the "dark" side i have seen what it looks like when fighting the US and the amount of mistakes and flaws that they make in fights just adds up to were the other side looks like they have 2x the skill lvl of the other team. US ts is dumpster vs pirate ts is clearer and not got 30 dif conversations going on in a fight. They also have a shot caller set up well before the fight... something that US never did well (to many chiefs not enough indians) also US grouping is bad everyone is always blocking eachother trying to get that broadside off also you only broadside never see single shots for best acc/damage and lastly the biggest 1 that keeps coming up Shooting sails... US needs to learn when its a good time to shoot sails and when YOUR TO CLOSE GO FOR DAMAGE. already been in atleast 3 fights were US player still has chain loaded at under 50m range and is dumping a broadside or 2 or 3 of chain into the side of a ship which then laughs at them for being pointless. Thats just my 2 cents from the week i have spent fighting the US and not with them 2
Loco Bandito Posted September 6, 2016 Author Posted September 6, 2016 Why would you chase a 1st rate in a pickle? A pickle cant tag a 1st rate ? Im curious of the situation that brought this on so i can see both sides. I called him out in global that day and said go get a bigger boat and I will fight you. I wasn't wasting my time on a pickle, plus we were sailing in formation in fleet I wasn't breaking off. He just twists everything another player who is toxic. Anyways back on topic. Why can't any of the losing team just say GG. Fight with honor, lose with dignity. Ever heard of sportsmanship. You should try it. Every battle I say GG heck even when it was 12v1 against me I said GG. 2
Loco Bandito Posted September 6, 2016 Author Posted September 6, 2016 Says the man who ran from me in my Pickle while you were in a 1st rate. So why are so salty with me because we don't want to deal with some of the "skill" that some of your fellow pirates enable before battles. You do know you only get better by playing against tougher opponents, learn from their tactics, see what your doing wrong. I've played team sports all my life and when we have trials pre season we look for the teams who topped their grade to play against as a warm up to see what we are doing wrong. Also with port wipe coming this month wouldn't you want to get as much pvp in and hone some skills? All these empty PB you guys are doing is just burning gold and wasting time really. Havnt you noticed we drew a line. From now on keep this on topic. Wana discuss anything pm me.
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