Tobacco in Sant Iago

[Reverendo]

I feel there is something wrong with Tobacco in Sant Iago

Sant Iago consumes Tobacco.

There is no NPC buyers of tobacco at 375 750 (normal price in a port that consumes tobacco) 

There are only players contracts buying at 250.

There is no quantity on sell so port is not over 25000

 

Edit. I was wrong with the selling price.

Edited July 29, 2016 by Reverendo

[Reverendo]

After restart it seems is still bugged.

[Skully]

Screenshot?

[Reverendo]

Screenshot

 

I think I have seen this before in other ports.

Is this a bug or am I missing something?

[Benass]

There is a chance that contract hiding the stock.

 

I wonder what would happen if that contract gets removed or fulfilled. But it does look like a bug.

 

I bet it is connected to that or those contracts.

[Reverendo]

A selling contract would hide the stock but there is no selling contract. Just buying contracts.

[Skully]

Okay, I figured the bug. It makes for a very interesting situation.

If you place a buy when the AI stock is empty, the AI will never bring up its normal bid.

(And thus never get stock, which would "eliminate" the bug.)

[Ink]

We are looking into the issue, it will be fixed in one of the next patches

[deltonos]

You can see this bugs in other ports south of Cuba, with price of 1 units.

[Magnum]

This is NOT a bug - it is the same at all ports for all items = if the NPC trader at the port has zero stock it will not even show you the slot for buy/sell - unless - you arrive at the port with stock to sell to it then it will show you the "normal" sell price that you can sell your stock to the NPC or the normal "what your contract should offer" price for items NOT consumed at that port.

 

What happens is if a consuming port has zero stock of an item AND an enterprising Captain puts in a "offer to buy" contract the NPC will not compete with the "offer to buy" contract by offering to pay more. As it happens when the consuming port does have stock it will compete and offer it's regular "buy" price over the top of your "offer to buy".

 

Thus - if the port has no stock and you place a buy contract there - sellers will have to sell to you first - this is GOOD for the game. Any other "buyer" can offer more than you offer = competition

 

This is similar mechanics to the sell phenomenon where you can offer to sell for 1 gold less than the port and any buyers have to buy from you first and other sellers can offer to sell for even less.

 

I'll repeat: not a bug

[Skully]

I had not figured out the exploit behind this bug of cancelling the buy contract, sell, then reinstate the buy contract.

[Jean Ribault]

In your screenshot all you have to do is sell 886 tobacco at the requested price and refresh, and you will see the AI prices.

 

(Don't do it though, it's not a good price of course) 

[Skully]

Magnum has withdrawn all his objections from http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/15595-player-buy-contracts-under-cost-of-production-at-selling-ports/ so I would like to request that we can get this fixed as soon as conveniently possible.

Edited August 20, 2016 by Skully

[katerholzig]

in my opinion you always should be able to sell/buy from contracts or from npc

[Ink]

Captains, it will be fixed in one of the next hotfix patches