Marques Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) I suggest this kind of clasical-ancien map. With clear letter type. Pergaminus background and similar to Game of the Thrones. Please see the model here: http://quartermaester.info/ Real map, with colours, about 1756: https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4390.ar168800/ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/PuertoRico_AtlasBlaeuVanDerHem.jpg Thank you. Edited July 17, 2016 by Marques 2
Prater Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 Why that style? Why not a historical map style, such as the West Indies Atlas 1775 that so much of the concept art was inspired by? I don't know about anyone else, but when I look at a map I want it to be as if I am in my cabin looking at a real map. 13
Cpt Blackthorne Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 This map is pretty cool. I like the sepia look and it's interactive made by players http://map.licornes.eu/ 1
Red Jack Walker Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 Why that style? Why not a historical map style, such as the West Indies Atlas 1775 that so much of the concept art was inspired by? I don't know about anyone else, but when I look at a map I want it to be as if I am in my cabin looking at a real map. +1
Guest Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 Why that style? Why not a historical map style, such as the West Indies Atlas 1775 that so much of the concept art was inspired by? I don't know about anyone else, but when I look at a map I want it to be as if I am in my cabin looking at a real map.Absolutely this!
tipsypo Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 Historical maps gets my votes too, though I assumed that the current maps appearance came under the "test ui please ignore" and would be updated once they get to the ui redo stage.
SteelSandwich Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 Wouldnt it be interesting if they left the map visualization to the modders outthere? Some may like the historical, some not. Maybe its easier to facilitate both if they can provide their preference themselves.
Prater Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 Steel,That would be cool. I don't know how many people have actually tried to mod Naval Action, but I am the only that I know of that has done so publicly and posted my results on the forums. I haven't tried in awhile (5 months since I last tried), but last I checked, when Naval Action went to Early Access, we lost the ability to mod textures, whether they are flags (darker red US flag) (new UK flag) (Spanish Flag), ships, or maps. I at least have not been able to find a tool that allows you to do so. I need to check again though to confirm that is still the case. And in fact, if I am able to find one, then I may publish some of my modifications. To mod the map, it requires you to modify the asset files. This causes a problem in that each update you will have to republish the mod and people will have to redownload it. Unless Game Labs separates the map into its own asset file. So if they do that, then it would make it much easier. Here is an old version of my map when I was able to get it in game. Back in September though. As far as I know, no longer possible Look what I was able to do.You can slightly see the masts of my ship because the in game map has a transparency. And of course there is the chat and the in game map points.Siegfried, if you want to know how I did this pm me. 1
Jeheil Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 This map is pretty cool. I like the sepia look and it's interactive made by players http://map.licornes.eu/ I really like that map too, I dream a dream where the map is a functional tool for my Navigator, I have no problems with plotting my course, getting a travel time estimate, combining that with likely weather events to decide on how I outrig my ship/which ship etc. Would be excellent. I do wonder if we are overloading our expectations of the UI improvements...which is the only roadmapped event that this could be considered part of. But yes....the blue/grey "thing" we have now could be improved by ANY of the suggestions in this thread, style, form and function being the next steps of the conversation.
Idle Champion Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 I really like that map too, I dream a dream where the map is a functional tool for my Navigator, I have no problems with plotting my course, getting a travel time estimate, combining that with likely weather events to decide on how I outrig my ship/which ship etc. As much as I like the idea of a set of in-game navigational tools and an interactive map, I'm afraid I can't let that sentence slip by without also asking if you dreamed a dream where God was kind. As for the maps, the 1775 west indies map looks great, but it isn't the most straightforwardly usable map - there's a degree of flourish and little details visible at the full 'zoomed out' scale that make it very busy. The licornes map or Prater's re-styled version of the current in-game map have a good age of sail flavour but are much more accessible for a map you can bring up with a keystroke and examine quickly while on the move. It'd be cool to see them or something like them when the UI updates come.
Prater Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 I suggested to use the style of the 1775 West Indies Atlas, not the actual map itself, since the Naval Action game world is different than every other map out there and requires it's own map. Anyway, I'm not exactly sure what I was doing 5 months ago. I was off my rocker and whatever I was doing completely lacked intelligence. I looked into modding again tonight and I was very easily able to get texture mods to work. Here are my initial results: The reason why the ocean is colored blue in this version is because of how Game Labs has done the Lat/Lon Grid and numbers. They require an alpha channel to be present and means the underlying blue/gray bleeds through. But like I said earlier, Game Labs needs to move the Caribbean-map.tex file to a separate asset file instead of the resources.assets, which is 1.5 gb or so. I can't publish a file that big. If they can create a sharedassets23.assets or something and move it there, that would be great. 3
Grizwald Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 Effing noice brother!!!!! That style fits much better, I hope to see it in game one day soon!
Marques Posted July 17, 2016 Author Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) +1 Prater said:Posted 14 July 2016 - 04:30 PM Why that style? Why not a historical map style, such as the West Indies Atlas 1775 that so much of the concept art was inspired by? I don't know about anyone else, but when I look at a map I want it to be as if I am in my cabin looking at a real map. You already have colors, in 1755, did you know ?.... this is from your own link....a real Map of caribbean with color. Year about 1755. There are many maps in color. See them, from 1700 to 1800: https://www.loc.gov/item/gm70000631/ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/PuertoRico_AtlasBlaeuVanDerHem.jpg https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4390.ct000658/ https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4390.ar168800/ https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4390.ct002233/ http://i.imgur.com/tP94m4l.jpg?1 Edited July 17, 2016 by Marques 1
Siegfried Posted July 17, 2016 Posted July 17, 2016 This map is pretty cool. I like the sepia look and it's interactive made by players http://map.licornes.eu/ That texture is my map
Prater Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Prater said:Posted 14 July 2016 - 04:30 PM Why that style? Why not a historical map style, such as the West Indies Atlas 1775 that so much of the concept art was inspired by? I don't know about anyone else, but when I look at a map I want it to be as if I am in my cabin looking at a real map. You already have colors, in 1755, did you know ?.... this is from your own link....a real Map of caribbean with color. Year about 1755. There are many maps in color. See them, from 1700 to 1800: https://www.loc.gov/item/gm70000631/ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/PuertoRico_AtlasBlaeuVanDerHem.jpg https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4390.ct000658/ https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4390.ar168800/ https://www.loc.gov/resource/g4390.ct002233/ http://i.imgur.com/tP94m4l.jpg?1 Color has nothing to do with it, as you yourself have said, I have posted maps with color in the past. Like I said above, it is the Style that I am interested in. The map you recommend is a modern fantasy style map. I am asking for a historical style that is inspired from historical maps. This means the author/artist studies the old maps and bases their artwork on what they have seen on the old maps. 2
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