Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Use your AI to busy his, and pierat his cake! Okay, might... Defeats the purpose of "one Pirate captain one ship one crew"playstyle but hell... will sit tight and wait for drastic changes. Cheers. 3
Dick Brave Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 i guess what you whant to say ... is they are not nerfed to death enough .... what is left to go ... give pirates boats without sails ... to make it fair for you ? are you realy that crappy as player? To be honest, I would prefer other ideas to make playing Pirate an Ultimate-Expert-Level than adding AI fleets. At least, I don't like AI fleets anyway. Things like morale malus when fighting warships and a bonus when fighting traders. Less labour houres, because Pirates don't like hard work. Limit ships to 4th rate max. Deny port battles but allow plundering ports. Maybe some special officer skills while other skills are limited to regular nations officers. I'm sure that Pirates are one of the easiest fractions to play at the moment - but it was introduced as the hardest one by far. So finally I would say the question isn't about me whether I'm a crappy player or not, but maybe about you whether you are the Ultimate-Expert-Level-God you should be to play Pirate. 1
JazAero Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) Okay I don't get it,I sailed since the patch was released yesterday morningI have not received a single bottle dropped And know I have fished constantly since the patch. Others have received 3 or 4 an hour. It seems to be location dependent. No drops near the US harbors but plenty in the Caribbean. And while were on the subject of drops. I have achieved level 44 in crafting skill And only now got a single Constitution blueprint after I don't know how many tries. You have to fix the blueprints drop rates on crafting gold ships. It took me 2 Months to get the Constellation blueprints, And that's way too long to get one set of prints. Allow me to reiterate this game rewards players for not playing it in the form of accumulated crafting hours. You should be able to purchase your crafting hours. In addition to accumulating them. Naturally up to your maximum per day. Edited June 30, 2016 by JazAero 1
Leku Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Okay, might... Defeats the purpose of "one Pirate captain one ship one crew"playstyle but hell... will sit tight and wait for drastic changes. Cheers. Do I like AI fleets? Nope. Do I like idea of hunting and being hunter? Yup. Do I understand why some part of players wants AI fleets and find them helpful? Yup. Do I understand why it create possibilities for messing arround with AI in PB`s etc and do I like it? Yup i understand and i dont like it. Is there way to live with AI fleets during solo hunting for traders? Yup. It`s not perfect and tbh mediorce imo, but there are ways to work it! People should play a bit and see how it works. Loosing crew hurts. Loosing ships hurts. Loosing officers may hurt. Is hunthing viable? Yes. Is it harder atm? Definatly yes! Is it more boring? Sadly, yes. But its still doable and definatly i`ll have more pleasure after catching my target But its me. Cheers o7
Sharden Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 To be honest, I would prefer other ideas to make playing Pirate an Ultimate-Expert-Level than adding AI fleets. At least, I don't like AI fleets anyway. Things like morale malus when fighting warships and a bonus when fighting traders. Less labour houres, because Pirates don't like hard work. Limit ships to 4th rate max. Deny port battles but allow plundering ports. Maybe some special officer skills while other skills are limited to regular nations officers. I'm sure that Pirates are one of the easiest fractions to play at the moment - but it was introduced as the hardest one by far. So finally I would say the question isn't about me whether I'm a crappy player or not, but maybe about you whether you are the Ultimate-Expert-Level-God you should be to play Pirate. easiest faction? pirates played just like every other nation until this patch. literally the same in all mechanics. Now, pirates got a severe nerf by introducing the 20% reload perk against them, making it impossible to fight even fights as a pirate. Without any other pirate-mechanics being introduced. So basically, pirates are down to pve or going for heavy ganks now. I don't really tink this is the right way to take. As long as pirates are not completely reworked, they should just be handled like all other nations gameplay wise (and yes i know that right now it is easiest to join pirates, with the advantage of keeping your blueprints. But thats actually the only difference right now) 3
Mrdoomed Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Do I like AI fleets? Nope. Do I like idea of hunting and being hunter? Yup. Do I understand why some part of players wants AI fleets and find them helpful? Yup. Do I understand why it create possibilities for messing arround with AI in PB`s etc and do I like it? Yup i understand and i dont like it. Is there way to live with AI fleets during solo hunting for traders? Yup. It`s not perfect and tbh mediorce imo, but there are ways to work it! People should play a bit and see how it works. Loosing crew hurts. Loosing ships hurts. Loosing officers may hurt. Is hunthing viable? Yes. Is it harder atm? Definatly yes! Is it more boring? Sadly, yes. But its still doable and definatly i`ll have more pleasure after catching my target But its me. Cheers o7 I think this too and already have started my new way of piracy. Like the few others who played like a solo pirate on the high seas chasing down his victim ive now found myself with 2 choices. 1. Make my own fleet of ai and turn every raid into a mini fleet battle ( stupid AF and i dont want to do it ) 2. Attempt to stop and capture the enemy ship while being shot by ai then spend the next hour sinking the horrible ai that is nothing more than a pain in the ass. BOTH of these are unacceptable. This is my new way andbi tried it last night. I find my victim, his fleet, attack then offer this message. Dismiss your ai and surrender your ship. Follow me to port and i will give back your ship and some cargo. If you do not i will sink your ship, kill your crew and officer and then kill your ai ships and crew in order to inflict not only the loss of cargo but the loss of all ships and crew that are now a small fortune to relpace. So far no takers , but i got good xp and gold for the easy kills and eventually they will go broke replacing crews and be back to 1 ship. Any pirates know a better way at piracy for the moment?
akd Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 2. Attempt to stop and capture the enemy ship while being shot by ai then spend the next hour sinking the horrible ai that is nothing more than a pain in the ass. There is a great, unmentioned feature in this patch: you can transfer prize crew to a captured ship in battle, adding it to your fleet and allowing you to command the AI prize crew to escape. No more being denied a prize because an enemy is alive somewhere in the instance. Now, I tested this without an AI fleet in tow, so I don't know if bringing along AI will block you from adding a ship in an instance.
Khendon Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Sealed bottle drop rate slightly lowered - captains were not supposed to catch 2-3 bottles per day NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY BOTTLES! WHY YOU DO DIS TO MEEEEEEEEEEEE! 1
admin Posted June 30, 2016 Author Posted June 30, 2016 There is a great, unmentioned feature in this patch: you can transfer prize crew to a captured ship in battle, adding it to your fleet and allowing you to command the AI prize crew to escape. No more being denied a prize because an enemy is alive somewhere in the instance. Now, I tested this without an AI fleet in tow, so I don't know if bringing along AI will block you from adding a ship in an instance. if you already have a fleet with you. you will have to pick the one you want to keep but you can add a ship to fleet right in battle - then repair its hull and crew by repair and medkits and be free to sail further and yes.. you can rage board, and escape with a prize muahahahaha!
Dick Brave Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 easiest faction? pirates played just like every other nation until this patch. literally the same in all mechanics. ... There were/are two things (maybe some more) that give the Pirates an advantage that regular nations don't have: 1) Switch to Pirate side. 2) Pirates can attack each other in order to escape in OW Pirates were introduced as an extremely challenging fraction for very experienced players. Today it's far away from that. Now, to achieve that goal the devs have to change a lot of things. I agree with you, just nerf the pirates won't help. What we need are some things that only pirates have and some things that only regular nations have. At least I would prefer a hard to play, challenging Pirate fraction that is designed for the experts. 1
akd Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Is there any chance you can call "medkits" something else? It hurts my heart to see this used in game like it is a real word. Why are Repair Kits not "repairkits"? Answer: it would be an obvious nonsense word. How about instead "Medical Kits," or even better "Surgeon's Stores"? 1
VonBarb Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 I knew that Bottles drop rate was too good to be true
Bach Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) One thing I noticed after the patch was that my battle map "m" no longer remembered which ship I was tracking last. Each time I flipped to the battle map it would be moved back onto my own ship and I would have to retarget it. Not a huge issue but an annoying one. Was this planned to be changed this way? Edited June 30, 2016 by Bach
Ledinis Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Soooo.. any chance to make double shot fire 2 cannon balls instead of a single larger low velocity one ?
Shark Aumakua Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Sealed bottle drop rate slightly lowered - captains were not supposed to catch 2-3 bottles per day This captain sailed to the 4 corners and back, in a snow storm, against the wind and caught a rock!
James Cornelius Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Sealed bottle drop rate slightly lowered - captains were not supposed to catch 2-3 bottles per day This captain sailed to the 4 corners and back, in a snow storm, against the wind and caught a rock! Yeah no kidding! I didn't catch a single bottle!
Jean Ribault Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 great after you have ruined the pirates you allso reduce the bottle drop ... and nothing of the important stuff fixed ... useless hotfix i guess il play again when you have fixed that pile of shit switch off the fleets switch off the officer and the game is fixed again Devs, keep on the track you're going. You're doing a great job with the upgrades and the hotfixes. And screw such naysayers who have nothing positive to say or any constructive input whatsoever. I didn't see the item listed in the 9.91 hotfix that addresses the bug with pre-patch hired fleet cutters and lynxes. Was that included here as well (as indicated in the other thread questioning it) ?
Zep the Black Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Now fix the BS 20% reload speed that stacks with other mods to make a 40% reload speed bonus and we will be good Agreed, as an underdog faction on PvP2 this perk puts us at a very significant disadvantage in nearly every combat situation. The use of our valuable ships and upgrades has to stop until the perk is removed or heavily reduced. Zep the Black [black Flag] PvP2 1
JimDandy Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Crew costs! Just did a 152 fleet mission in my Essex & my fleet of 2 Belle's ... here's the after battle profit/loss result's; 1) Essex: 6 kills, 2 Assists 2) Belle #1: 1 assist 3) Belle #2: 1 assist, 1 capture Revenue 1) Damage & Kills: 108,311 2) Mission Comp: 5,000 3) Total Revenue 113,311 Expenses 1) Repairs: 8,393 2) Replacement Crew 153,000 3) Total Expenses 161,393 Profit/Loss (48,082) OK I like the idea of having my own little fleet but given that they are prone to doing dumb things (like capturing ships & losing 3/4 of their crew), and now the cost of crew replacement I don't think I can afford to use them. Yesterday after about 7 or 8 battles I ended the day with about 400k less than I started with and that was with a winning record! 4
Vernon Merrill Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Theres MANY reasons why fleets have been tried twice and removed twice. 2
Khendon Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 I don't want to sink the AI. I want to pirate his hold hethwill, you are awesome. <tiphat> keep doing what you do. Devs, the recruitment crew costs per member have to be lowered (-40%) or the gold rewards increased cause we are loosing money due to crew loses in battles. hope they leave it expensive. craft the repair kits and med kits.
Kiithnaras Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 I also don't see a response or anything in the notes about crafting prices. I just checked and they are the same as they were before. Tobacco is sold by producing ports by a (ludicrous) 500ea, while crafting it at a plantation also costs 500ea (2000 for 4). Sugar is in a similar situation. As far as I can tell, every other craftable resource has a lower unit cost for crafting, even food supplies (100ea for crafting vs 250ea for port purchase) than production ports do. I'm left wondering if this is intentional or not.
Kiithnaras Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Crew costs! Just did a 152 fleet mission in my Essex & my fleet of 2 Belle's ... here's the after battle profit/loss result's; ... OK I like the idea of having my own little fleet but given that they are prone to doing dumb things (like capturing ships & losing 3/4 of their crew), and now the cost of crew replacement I don't think I can afford to use them. Yesterday after about 7 or 8 battles I ended the day with about 400k less than I started with and that was with a winning record! I agree, the AI default of "get in close and board" is rather silly when they're too close or even outmatched in cew strength...but since you can order your fleet around, maybe try not leaving them on free mode and instead issue more specific orders like Destroy or Demast? Even have them retreat if they start taking a beating...
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