Ser_Slack Posted June 6, 2016 Posted June 6, 2016 I don't care if they remove the server or not. Why not just allow those that want to move a chance at asset transfer. Those that want to stay, stay. It's futile thinking that numbers are going to grow on pvp2 when admins, devs, and mods are suggesting to new people to go to pvp1 because of pop issues on 2. 1
Macjimm Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 I really don't understand this logic. If PvP1 is so much better then post up encouragement for players to play there. I play on PVP1 when I'm seeking more interaction with other players and really like PVP2 sometimes also. I'm not getting a nice feeling when lots of players are lobbying to remove my option to enjoy PVP2 and force me to play on PVP1 all the time. If I end up getting PVP1 shoved down my throat it will not encourage me to play more. Likely I'll play less. If we really want to be fair try this. Wipe both servers and start fresh, let everyone keep their gold and XP. Encourage as many people as possible to join a single server. That seems to be the short term goal. To build as high a population as we can. Later we may need additional servers if the population grows again. Limiting players, removing choice and forcing people onto a single server won't likely build the population much and will likely anger people off.
Atreides Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 The issue with making one server is the ping problem oceana players have with eu1,even some west coast us players have pings that make pvp battles problematic. Forcing everyone onto a European server that makes aspects of the game (raking, boarding etc) delayed presents an unbalanced playing field against non European players. I know, "suck it up" but this extra disadvantage could alienate an active section of our playerbase. At release they will need the two servers, and probably more. I have been playing since November and am quite enjoying playtesting the game, I advocated for merging the two eu servers for exactly the reasons stated here. I feel the need to further advocate for our Oceania and Asian brothers in arms
Whoever Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 GDAY I am of two minds here I want more players, but as a Aussie the ping is going to be a game breaker for me and will not even bother to try it. So guess that is my vote is a NO, find a better solution please.
HW Chopper Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 PVP2 still has a high percentage of its pop playing the US nation and is growing which I believe is due to the rollover effects from PVP1 and this noticeable because of the push into pirate territorial waters forcing them south towards the dutch which also could have a roll over effect of wiping out the dutch and they well either do one of two things 1. Leave the game, this will reduce server pop. 2 Change nations, If this is the case they will most likely go to the USA because they are mad that the Brits didn't help Vs the Pirates because we want to remain neutral to both nations as we already have our hands full with the US All in all GB will have its work cut out for us soon as they are on our door step on 2 fronts. me personally im sick of trying to do whats good for the server and just want the server to die quickly ( Hoping for a merge soon because as an Australian playing on a US server is getting quite old, as they have crap TZ for us too attack ports in our prime and we cant attack due to the US prime TZ (this is the case for them as well) also most of our port defences lately, we have been out numbered and only just hanging in there and winning by BR rating. Love the game and where its going but would like an ETA if a server merge is happening or not so I know to call it a day and tip my hat to the server and walk off into the sunset.
Whoever Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 PVP2 still has a high percentage of its pop playing the US nation and is growing which I believe is due to the rollover effects from PVP1 and this noticeable because of the push into pirate territorial waters forcing them south towards the dutch which also could have a roll over effect of wiping out the dutch and they well either do one of two things 1. Leave the game, this will reduce server pop. 2 Change nations, If this is the case they will most likely go to the USA because they are mad that the Brits didn't help Vs the Pirates because we want to remain neutral to both nations as we already have our hands full with the US All in all GB will have its work cut out for us soon as they are on our door step on 2 fronts. me personally im sick of trying to do whats good for the server and just want the server to die quickly ( Hoping for a merge soon because as an Australian playing on a US server is getting quite old, as they have crap TZ for us too attack ports in our prime and we cant attack due to the US prime TZ (this is the case for them as well) also most of our port defences lately, we have been out numbered and only just hanging in there and winning by BR rating. Love the game and where its going but would like an ETA if a server merge is happening or not so I know to call it a day and tip my hat to the server and walk off into the sunset. I just can't see how closing server helps the game, just makes it look like a sick dying animal. GB wows are really down to the AUS clan making deals over the last few months, to turn one nation against another and vice versa. Thus making decisions that affected the whole nation without their consent or knowledge. It would be great if there was no chat available between the nations and just let the cards fall where they may lol. Maybe roll the PVE server into the lame PVP server and have zone's where PVP is allowed and zones where its not. Just spit balling here.
HW Chopper Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 I just can't see how closing server helps the game, just makes it look like a sick dying animal. GB wows are really down to the AUS clan making deals over the last few months, to turn one nation against another and vice versa. Thus making decisions that affected the whole nation without their consent or knowledge. It would be great if there was no chat available between the nations and just let the cards fall where they may lol. Maybe roll the PVE server into the lame PVP server and have zone's where PVP is allowed and zones where its not. Just spit balling here. Sorry mate we are not making decisions for GB we are making them for our clan, im not sure you are aware of how close we are from collapsing
Æthlstan Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) I was playing Pvp1 in Hawaii with a ping of less than 300. It was normally around 250. No visible issues. We have chinese players, australian players, players on French colony islands in the south pacific that ive never heard of, all playing on PvP1 with no apparent ping issues. This isnt a first person shooter.... Edited June 7, 2016 by Æthlstan 1
basilhare Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Although, one of the reasons why I get on the PvP2 server is the ping rate. It is much lower than PvP1 when connecting from North America. I see a lot of wanting a combined mass of people but please take into account connection needs. The US servers was brought online for this reason months ago. I started on US servers with usually getting in the 80's ping...switched to PvP1 with about twice that @ 160 ping +/-....haven't really noticed any significant difference in performance....FYI
Fastidius Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Ping is an illusion. All you do is learnto lead your target slightly which becomes second nature. The only you ever get a disadvantage on is boarding game andeven then it is a server side counting so again yo learn to click slightly earlier. It is not an issue to the aussies.
Jean Ribault Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 I chose PvP2 for ease in gameplay and it doesn't disappoint. Consistent ping less than 20 or so. And why would we want to remove that? No merge is preferable.
EL LOCO Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 I merged a long time ago and have not had any ping problems. maybe once in a huge 25 to 25 battle ..but slightly. It is insane if they don't merge. Right now there are 190 players on PVP2 and 189 on PVP1. That's nearly 400 that we could have now with none to little lag. Insane that the devs don't do this now. 1
Whoever Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Sorry mate we are not making decisions for GB we are making them for our clan, im not sure you are aware of how close we are from collapsing Well sure you do, you always look after the clan, that goes without saying. But surly you see that what happens to one happens to the other. Its called a symbiotic relationship. It would appear to me and to the rest of GB that because AUS have made decision without a clear end goal and not utilized the rest of GB's resources and fleets to achieve that end goal, we are in shall I dare say "sinking ship". Its almost like AUS is its own nation, hard to come to grips with really since you guys are not really a powerhouse of the Brits. But his hardly solves our merger issue, I do see the other post about ping, I have also spoken to others that says it impossible to attempt boarding PvP, but even now at a ping avg 250-280 I have found during boarding click click nothing. So maybe its a UI issue or ping it certainly means that I am a dead duck on the EU server. Maybe to brings up the numbers maybe the Dev's could offer incentives on the others players to swap servers. For example new players get a starter pack to get them going or I not sure if its possible if a player swaps server they get credits keep their rank. Again spit-balling here.
HW Chopper Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Well sure you do, you always look after the clan, that goes without saying. But surly you see that what happens to one happens to the other. Its called a symbiotic relationship. It would appear to me and to the rest of GB that because AUS have made decision without a clear end goal and not utilized the rest of GB's resources and fleets to achieve that end goal, we are in shall I dare say "sinking ship". Its almost like AUS is its own nation, hard to come to grips with really since you guys are not really a powerhouse of the Brits. But his hardly solves our merger issue, I do see the other post about ping, I have also spoken to others that says it impossible to attempt boarding PvP, but even now at a ping avg 250-280 I have found during boarding click click nothing. So maybe its a UI issue or ping it certainly means that I am a dead duck on the EU server. Maybe to brings up the numbers maybe the Dev's could offer incentives on the others players to swap servers. For example new players get a starter pack to get them going or I not sure if its possible if a player swaps server they get credits keep their rank. Again spit-balling here. The clear end goal was to try and keep the server afloat and not reduce nations down to their capitals to keep the player interested in the game. but its clear now that the US want to kill the server so I say good luck to them #enjoy
Jean LaPointe Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 What if they created a server that can handle a good ping anywhere in the world and moved everyone PvP into it.
Whoever Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) The clear end goal was to try and keep the server afloat and not reduce nations down to their capitals to keep the player interested in the game. but its clear now that the US want to kill the server so I say good luck to them #enjoy Ahh well AUS is dead anyhow now, So Ding Dong the WhiTch is DEAD. Edited June 14, 2016 by Whoever
Jean LaPointe Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 Has there been any news on merging the pvp2 server? Going back to this, who said there was a merger in the first place???
Horror Posted June 10, 2016 Posted June 10, 2016 Going back to this, who said there was a merger in the first place??? devs
Bommel Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Going back to this, who said there was a merger in the first place??? http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/13913-important-announcement-pvp-eu-3-server-closing-and-merge/#entry255918 1
Jean Ribault Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 I was looking for that, cuz I knew they said that, just couldn't find it. Thanks for posting. 1
SeaMist Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/13913-important-announcement-pvp-eu-3-server-closing-and-merge/#entry255918 Thanks for that. I was wondering about trying a bit of PVP on the PVE2 server but I won't bother now. The PVP1 server sounds awful.
Vernon Merrill Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Its great.... many of the malcontents have finally left. just sayin 2
CaptVonGunn Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Careful what you wish for. Better to wait for the Pirate fix first. Might as well bring it now.. not that many over there anyway Although, one of the reasons why I get on the PvP2 server is the ping rate. It is much lower than PvP1 when connecting from North America. I see a lot of wanting a combined mass of people but please take into account connection needs. The US servers was brought online for this reason months ago. Not a big issue with this game.. everything is so slow.. a 2-300 ping is still more then good for a game you can see teh cannon balls in:)
CaptVonGunn Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 Blackjack have you been in 25v25? I experienced lag when connecting from Europe to pvp2 in big fights. Cannons balls didn't show up andthere was no sound, but my canons were empty after. Double clicks don't work either. That isnt a ping issue that is I believe the non-optimized game and it's general code.. My Euro clan mates have same issue .... More a game system issue.. Had that issue in big PvP2 battles before I moved
Whoever Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 I have had more PVP in the last 4 days than my 2 months on the server thats with a max of 160ppl, playing as GB. The GB guys have banded together and are having fun for the first time since some disruptive players have left. So there is a new a vibe going around the server. Players are trying to get there mates to come play. So in short there is a new energy on the server at the moment would be a shame to wipe it out. The euro eould not gain 160 new players but lose the majority all together.
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