Capt Hornblower Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 would be rather nice to sail the ship used in Master and Commander, which I believe was HMS Rose. she does fall in the time frame for NA, being 1757 1
Fuzzyhead12 Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 would be rather nice to sail the ship used in Master and Commander, which I believe was HMS Rose. she does fall in the time frame for NA, being 1757 The suprise, is the HMS rose as far as i know, and oyu cna fully crew her as Master Comander (for brits)
_Masterviolin Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) The suprise, is the HMS rose as far as i know, and oyu cna fully crew her as Master Comander (for brits) Oh no my friend, she's not the L'Unite class corvette. Surprise is from a much later date than 1754. He means the 20 gun post rate ship. L'Unite is a 44 gun corvette, the historical HMS Rose was a 20-28 gun frigate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Rose_(1757) The HMS rose in San Diego was originally built as a replica for the actual HMS Rose. but she was modified heavily to fit the role for HMS Surprise. I've had the pleasure of seeing and boarding the replica, and I can tell you it's obvious that she's not a replica of a L'Unite. Quarterdeck rail and overall hull complexion isn't too familiar for my beloved HMS Constance in-game Edited May 25, 2016 by _Masterviolin 2
Capt Hornblower Posted May 25, 2016 Author Posted May 25, 2016 be nice too if she could appear as she did in the movie. she's a fine looking ship in M&C
AKPyrate Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 Oh no my friend, she's not the L'Unite class corvette. Surprise is from a much later date than 1754. He means the 20 gun post rate ship. L'Unite is a 44 gun corvette, the historical HMS Rose was a 20-28 gun frigate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Rose_(1757) Where's your source for L'Unite's armament? If I recall correctly, L'Unite was built to bridge the gap between the smaller warships and frigates, thus would be a small frigate and most definitely NOT a 44 gun ship! Heck, the British classified her as a 28 gun frigate (though she often carried more than those 28 guns, but that was more of the norm in the day). Furthermore, as the Surprise from the novels/movie was a work of fiction based in history, and Patrick O'Brian once toured HMS Rose (pre-conversion) and noted that she was very much like he envisioned Aubrey's Surprise, I'd say she's a pretty good fit. *Edit: Looked up the wikipedia page for Surprise... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Surprise_(1796)
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