Crayon Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Pennsylvania was one of the "nine ships to rate not less than 74 guns each" authorized by the US Congress on 29 April 1816. She was designed and built by Samuel Humphreys in the Philadelphia Navy Yard. Her keel was laid in September 1821, but tight budgets slowed her construction, preventing her being launched until 18 July 1837. She was the largest sailing warship ever built for the United States, just as large as the Spanish four-decked ship of the lineSantisima Trinidad, built over 60 years earlier. She had three complete gun decks and a flush spar-deck and her hull was pierced for 136 guns. More @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pennsylvania_(1837) Edited May 24, 2016 by Henry d'Esterre Darby Removed unnecessary poll.
vonKrimm Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 Pennsylvania was one of the "nine ships to rate not less than 74 guns each" authorized by the US Congress on 29 April 1816. She was designed and built by Samuel Humphreys in the Philadelphia Navy Yard. Her keel was laid in September 1821, but tight budgets slowed her construction, preventing her being launched until 18 July 1837. She was the largest sailing warship ever built for the United States, just as large as the Spanish four-decked ship of the lineSantisima Trinidad, built over 60 years earlier. She had three complete gun decks and a flush spar-deck and her hull was pierced for 136 guns. More @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pennsylvania_(1837) soonTM....like maybe two weeksTM 1
Crayon Posted May 22, 2016 Author Posted May 22, 2016 Im sure if you cap or build one Krim, Vicious will require you to hand it over. No prize ships for you! Like the union, I'd burn it before I did such a thing.
akd Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Problem is that by the time she sailed, she was a ship of different era with a succeeding generation of armament technology, not to mention the cosmetic changes, or more substantial changes, to her structure that might have happened between the keel being laid and her launch in 1837. This is why we should not use keel-laid dates. 1
thomas aagaard Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 By then iron steamships was sailing the oceans... so clearly no.
Crayon Posted May 23, 2016 Author Posted May 23, 2016 She was commissioned during the age of sail and is considered a ship of the line. She was never used because during the 1830s steam warships were being experimented with. Also her armaments were not on par with the new explosive shells being introduced into warfare. She was supposed to be completed before the 1830s but there budget issues.
OTMatt Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Not to derail the thread but you could always join me in supporting the USS North Carolina Crayon. It was launched the same year as the Mercury brig.
Balsafer Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Why not add the ship as it was intended when it first started being built? 2
OlavDeng2 Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 The Pensylvania is 17 years out of date(end date being 1820), so i highly doubt and i certainly hope she wont get in. She is out of date of the game and if we start adding her, people will start saying "why not add this one", we should want to avoid power creep in such a way, it happened in war thunder, id prefer it not to happen here.
pietjenoob Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) I like the idea the guns and other stuff, but i totally agree with OlavDeng. Used to play a lot of warthunder but as they introduced things beyond the korea-war i was going to play less. Or they have to introduce a lot of Dutch, French and English ships from 1600 till 1675(time is a guess) for example Edited May 23, 2016 by pietjenoob 1
Hornblower V Posted May 24, 2016 Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) My vote yes...with original intended armament. Also, Why not some of the US late wooden 74's? Edited May 24, 2016 by Hornblower V
Strugelwits Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 adding the USS Pennsylvania would be like adding the HMS duke of wellington, It would make the 1st rates we have in the game "irrelevant" and the modern guns on it would prove "unfair" to all the other ships, It is unlikely that they will add it.
Tiedemann Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 I vote yes! I understand the arguments against, but it's not the Tirpitz! For me this game is about beautiful wooden ships powered by sails. If the Developer nurf it to fit the game/make it as it was intended, it should be awsome!
Inkompetent Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) But if we get this ship as a "one-ship-beats-all", then we clearly need the HMS Warrior! Edited May 27, 2016 by Inkompetent
Haratik Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 There were plenty pf other American lineships that have a better chance of getting in than the Pennsylvania. If she entered the game you might as well retire the Victory and nullify any point in using 2nd rates. 1
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