Information demand: what is going on with server merge?

[Xaturas]

Well unfortunately you sound like you did not have fun and have pretty much made up your mind. Thats to bad because there is sure to be alot more good comming soon and remember this is and has been advertised as early access so who knows what can come.

As far as your point about hated going from place to place getting mats but you had to i can not comment because ive never done it. I still make lots and lots of stuff and usually once a week i will have to make a 52 minute trip to gather things i just cant get in large supply.

I cant give advice on ho i play because it reqlly makes some people mad but i and most people hope you stick it out and hang with us.

Good luck.

I don't say i will quit game, because i play with friends that i played for years, otherwise i would probably not play already as i pretty much got almost everything.\

 

Thing is i still belive full wipe is not required yet, but if it will happen then i hope there will be some equivalent to make things easier for some time (1-3 weeks), like x2 gold or smth.

 

This game is grindy as hell.

[Balsafer]

I don't say i will quit game, because i play with friends that i played for years, otherwise i would probably not play already as i pretty much got almost everything.\

 

Thing is i still belive full wipe is not required yet, but if it will happen then i hope there will be some equivalent to make things easier for some time (1-3 weeks), like x2 gold or smth.

 

This game is grindy as hell.

 

 

Majority of games are grindy as hell only difference is the other games try and speed up things by putting items out that you can buy with real money too boost xp or have dumb their game down so much it is a yawn. Prime example of what happens when you dumb a game down SWG anyone?

[Mrdoomed]

Majority of games are grindy as hell only difference is the other games try and speed up things by putting items out that you can buy with real money too boost xp or have dumb their game down so much it is a yawn. Prime example of what happens when you dumb a game down SWG anyone?

Please dont mention SWG, rest its sole, what a great great game till the devs listened to the carebears who came ruined then left SWG to die.

[Balsafer]

Please dont mention SWG, rest its sole, what a great great game till the devs listened to the carebears who came ruined then left SWG to die.

 

I only bring it up to prove a point.

[Ted Nougat]

Thing is i still belive full wipe is not required yet, but if it will happen then i hope there will be some equivalent to make things easier for some time (1-3 weeks), like x2 gold or smth.

 

Here's some info from the devs: http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/12727-information-demand-what-is-going-on-with-server-merge/#entry231123

 

I have a couple points to make based on the above:

 

• Think about how a merge might happen in absence of a wipe. I can't imagine how that would shake out and avoid hellacious confusion and nonsense. Or create unfairness. And whining. Oh, the whining.
• Players who have moved servers essentially wiped themselves. Their worlds haven't ended.
• The war & peace changes will require a port wipe. What happens when you lose a port with an outpost that has stuff in it? You lose the stuff. That's getting close to a wipe right there already.
• They have said over and over that a wipe is a "when" and not an "if".
• The last line of the dev's post above is key, like he says: rank and craft XP are the things to focus on, all else may or may not go away. Such is life in Early Access as the game evolves. We should all feel good that XP is staying with us.
• Since crafting hours are capped and rate limited, gold is insanely easy to make. You can't hardly avoid swimming in the stuff. I have more than I can possibly spend, and very little to spend it on -- aside from crafting materials.

So: A wipe is coming, probably along with any merge that might happen, and you get to keep rank and crafting XP.  Crafting hours convert to insane amounts of gold, yet we have a finite number of hours to build up and convert to craft XP before a wipe and/or merge happens. Gold buys crafting materials. What does that tell us that we should be doing now?

 

It tells us that if you are doing anything other than converting your existing gold and hours into crafting XP then you are doing something wrong. Anything temporary (gold, materials, blueprints) you fail to convert into something permanent (crafting XP) is opportunity cost you will never get back. I'll let you figure out how to best convert hours to craft XP.

 

Would it be nice if they gave us a ticket to redeem an appropriate rate ship? Sure. Would it be nice if they gave us a little gold bump? No point since gold is beyond easy to make and almost certainly go away. Will it be very easy to start over? Absolutely.

[Fastidius]

Here is some free information  that you don't need to demand....

 

If you dump pvp2 and come to PVP1 British ask for someone from AUSEZ in the british channel and join up. We both have a life support project where you get brought down to our home and set up with a ship or 2 of the right level for you.  You are also immediately put into our highly active team speaks and fed as much XP as you can gobble.  If you like port battles then we can give you a 24/7 feeding of that too.

 

This announcement has been brought to you by the number 1 and the letters A U S E Z

[Captain]

All that happened was an announcement on a forum post. I am not the only player wondering what is going on. Demand info from staff about server merge, plans and what we can do now for it. The haphazard forum post has caused mass exodus from other servers, know leaving nations highly imbalanced. The lack of openness from the devs is a cause for concern as well.

 

this isnt reddit stop acting like this

[Mrdoomed]

Here is some free information that you don't need to demand....

If you dump pvp2 and come to PVP1 British ask for someone from AUSEZ in the british channel and join up. We both have a life support project where you get brought down to our home and set up with a ship or 2 of the right level for you. You are also immediately put into our highly active team speaks and fed as much XP as you can gobble. If you like port battles then we can give you a 24/7 feeding of that too.

This announcement has been brought to you by the number 1 and the letters A U S E Z

This is the poaching im told doesn't exist.

[Fastidius]

Mods and staff have said move if you want more Activity now.

[Nash]

Here is some free information  that you don't need to demand....

 

If you dump pvp2 and come to PVP1 British ask for someone from AUSEZ in the british channel and join up. We both have a life support project where you get brought down to our home and set up with a ship or 2 of the right level for you.  You are also immediately put into our highly active team speaks and fed as much XP as you can gobble.  If you like port battles then we can give you a 24/7 feeding of that too.

 

This announcement has been brought to you by the number 1 and the letters A U S E Z

 

dis marketing

[Fastidius]

dis marketing

we already have helped clans coming over and they sail under their own flags....we want active PVP and more people helping us....if you wanna join us thats up to you but join our server and nation and we help you regardless......the sea is full of ships and we still get kills etc..it costs us nothing but helps the game

[Xaturas]

Here's some info from the devs: http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/12727-information-demand-what-is-going-on-with-server-merge/#entry231123

 

I have a couple points to make based on the above:

 

• Think about how a merge might happen in absence of a wipe. I can't imagine how that would shake out and avoid hellacious confusion and nonsense. Or create unfairness. And whining. Oh, the whining.
• Players who have moved servers essentially wiped themselves. Their worlds haven't ended.
• The war & peace changes will require a port wipe. What happens when you lose a port with an outpost that has stuff in it? You lose the stuff. That's getting close to a wipe right there already.
• They have said over and over that a wipe is a "when" and not an "if".
• The last line of the dev's post above is key, like he says: rank and craft XP are the things to focus on, all else may or may not go away. Such is life in Early Access as the game evolves. We should all feel good that XP is staying with us.
• Since crafting hours are capped and rate limited, gold is insanely easy to make. You can't hardly avoid swimming in the stuff. I have more than I can possibly spend, and very little to spend it on -- aside from crafting materials.

So: A wipe is coming, probably along with any merge that might happen, and you get to keep rank and crafting XP.  Crafting hours convert to insane amounts of gold, yet we have a finite number of hours to build up and convert to craft XP before a wipe and/or merge happens. Gold buys crafting materials. What does that tell us that we should be doing now?

 

It tells us that if you are doing anything other than converting your existing gold and hours into crafting XP then you are doing something wrong. Anything temporary (gold, materials, blueprints) you fail to convert into something permanent (crafting XP) is opportunity cost you will never get back. I'll let you figure out how to best convert hours to craft XP.

 

Would it be nice if they gave us a ticket to redeem an appropriate rate ship? Sure. Would it be nice if they gave us a little gold bump? No point since gold is beyond easy to make and almost certainly go away. Will it be very easy to start over? Absolutely.

I'm lvl 50 in crafting so I don't need advices on crafting and I'm 1/3 way into the curse (last rank), stopped farming xp some time ago.

 

Thing is I have raw materials for dozens ships, that I spend my time getting. And so did other people. It took some huge amount of commitment to work it out.

Wiping ports is fair, wiping mats is not. But whatever I don't care anymore whatever happens, I will either play this game or stop altogether.

We will see how real is the *content patch every 30 days*.

[Ted Nougat]

I'm lvl 50 in crafting so I don't need advices on crafting and I'm 1/3 way into the curse (last rank), stopped farming xp some time ago.

 

Thing is I have raw materials for dozens ships, that I spend my time getting. And so did other people. It took some huge amount of commitment to work it out.

Wiping ports is fair, wiping mats is not. But whatever I don't care anymore whatever happens, I will either play this game or stop altogether.

We will see how real is the *content patch every 30 days*.

 

Sounds like you're all set then.  Wiping is the only option that is fair. And has been known to be forthcoming for quite some time.

[Captain]

If they will remove all the mats I had to swim like a tard to get to for dozens of hours if not hundred + and then remove my craft recipes I will probably leave this game for good. Same as other people.

We will see if devs care about this game or don't care about playerbase because they already got $$$ from eary access.

 

this is not reddit please stop acting like this

[The Gump]

I really dont see a desperate need to merge servers, there is still a decent amount of players on PVP 2 and I would be more than happy for them to concentrate on providing more content, rather than worrying about the state of the servers.

 

It wasnt the Dev's fault that the US nation made up over 50% of the server population at one stage, leading to complaints of unbalancing and making players leave...

It wasnt the Dev's fault the US nation imploded and players switched to different nations/left the game...

It wasnt the Dev's fault a whole bunch of US based players (those in the real country) decided to leave a US based server and move to a EU one, citing "bordem" "lack of PvP" "low population" & "we out leveled the server"...

 

And after all that, GB nation players are now being accused of "being a Zerg and making people leave the server"....  when all they have done it just stayed and played without creating drama and b***sh**.

 

And now the Dev's are being pressured to do something about a problem that it totally out of their control and has been caused by.... well, need I say it?

[Anceitus]

Never noticed tbh.

bc it is a euro server.... so.. yeah

[Anceitus]

I really dont see a desperate need to merge servers, there is still a decent amount of players on PVP 2 and I would be more than happy for them to concentrate on providing more content, rather than worrying about the state of the servers.

 

It wasnt the Dev's fault that the US nation made up over 50% of the server population at one stage, leading to complaints of unbalancing and making players leave...

It wasnt the Dev's fault the US nation imploded and players switched to different nations/left the game...

It wasnt the Dev's fault a whole bunch of US based players (those in the real country) decided to leave a US based server and move to a EU one, citing "bordem" "lack of PvP" "low population" & "we out leveled the server"...

 

And after all that, GB nation players are now being accused of "being a Zerg and making people leave the server"....  when all they have done it just stayed and played without creating drama and b***sh**.

 

And now the Dev's are being pressured to do something about a problem that it totally out of their control and has been caused by.... well, need I say it?

devs did the second. us would have been competitive had they not created a panic, but I give the players that cant read half the credit. Nowhere does it say 2 and 1 will merge. it doesnt even say will. all it says is potential. I was getting antsy bc they put info in forums, not a blog or public post that is easily accessible. They said they would inform us before making big decisions, but patch with no warning and add content and THEN the info about it. So, that is kind of a lie based on their current and past actions. Not saying I want a hint, but at least be honest and say "we will let you know when it is added, because it is our policy to not tip off and give advantages pre patch" (which i agree with)

[Anceitus]

I'm lvl 50 in crafting so I don't need advices on crafting and I'm 1/3 way into the curse (last rank), stopped farming xp some time ago.

 

Thing is I have raw materials for dozens ships, that I spend my time getting. And so did other people. It took some huge amount of commitment to work it out.

Wiping ports is fair, wiping mats is not. But whatever I don't care anymore whatever happens, I will either play this game or stop altogether.

We will see how real is the *content patch every 30 days*.

ill put it into a 300 context for you...

 

 

THIS IS ALPHA!!!

 

If you didn't know there were going to be at least TWO server wipes (we should thank steam that they are not completely day 1 wipes) this is your wakeup call. If you need mats ground, ask friends. this is an MMO, so use multiple players to build stuff. honestly? if youre going to go, then go, nobody really cares if a lvl 50 crafter leaves, as there are a lot of them already and most feel elitist about it. so, either wake up because you invested in an aplha, use your mats to the best of your ability... or leave... but whining about it isnt changing anything... 

[VictusB]

The devs have much bigger things to plan for and code in that are far more important than your precious internet stuff that was never expected to be forever.  It has ALWAYS been the case the only thing safe during development was your XP and crafting levels, which is a big thing tbh and something to be grateful for.

 

TBH there are much bigger problems than even server merges, like for instance how do you get the ship combat system away from a progression dominated one of 'he who exists longer gains most gross tonnage and cannot lose'.  Right now everyone is rather 'young' on their accounts and this is already a major issue on every PVP server, the rush to SOLs and the forgetting of every class of ships as soon as you can crew the next one...THAT is an existential problem for MMOs and especially this one...one that can be conquered though.

[Anceitus]

The devs have much bigger things to plan for and code in that are far more important than your precious internet stuff that was never expected to be forever.  It has ALWAYS been the case the only thing safe during development was your XP and crafting levels, which is a big thing tbh and something to be grateful for.

 

TBH there are much bigger problems than even server merges, like for instance how do you get the ship combat system away from a progression dominated one of 'he who exists longer gains most gross tonnage and cannot lose'.  Right now everyone is rather 'young' on their accounts and this is already a major issue on every PVP server, the rush to SOLs and the forgetting of every class of ships as soon as you can crew the next one...THAT is an existential problem for MMOs and especially this one...one that can be conquered though.

odd, i sold a pretty "low class" ship to someone much higher in rank then me 

maybe a few, maybe even the vocal majority, but as in most games, not everyone is running for a first rate. 

 

we did have a pretty great night against thirds in basic cutters. There's always that too

Edited April 4, 2016 by Anceitus