Information demand: what is going on with server merge?

[Anceitus]

All that happened was an announcement on a forum post. I am not the only player wondering what is going on. Demand info from staff about server merge, plans and what we can do now for it. The haphazard forum post has caused mass exodus from other servers, know leaving nations highly imbalanced. The lack of openness from the devs is a cause for concern as well.

[maturin]

Merging and transfer will happen after War & peace/rvr/port battles changes are approved by players and coded. It might take 1-2 months.

 

What more do you want to know?

 

The meaning of 'merge' should be clear enough. You keep your stuff.

 

No one knows (including devs) exactly how long those conquest patches will take. But by the time they are done we will probably be getting around port wipe time. So seems like a merge will be barely noticed by anyone.

[SteelSandwich]

the statement you are referring to:

 

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Merging and transfer will happen after War & peace/rvr/port battles changes are approved by players and coded. It might take 1-2 months. If you want more action it is advised to just transfer to pvp 1. If you want more secluded environment you can stay. 

We are going to discuss it this week with the team and maybe propose other options for captains moving to pvp 1

 

We are going to discuss it this week with the team and maybe propose other options for captains moving to pvp 1

 

They clearly state that they are going discuss this on short term.

 

I can state with near certainty:

The moment they have a proposal, they will communicate that with the forum.

They won't take any sudden and abrupt measures without communicating with people.

 

With that said, on a technical level you cant just merge 2 servers, nations hold different teritory, people have outposts in different ports which become unavailable.

So, my best guess would be that it wont happen before a map wipe has happened. I think they will combine the potential merge and map wipe, so no damage is done.

[Captain Comery]

A little tip

Don't use the word demand, it gives a bad image. I suggest the word "request" would work better.

[Random]

I've been following the rumors of merge and the exodus of people from PvP 2 for some time now and it seems to me that lot of people are in a somewhat heightened state of agitation (to put it mildly in some cases). It is true that PvP 2 has seen a rather large drop in players lately, but there is still plenty of players who are not going anywhere and who are more than willing to engage in good old fashioned PvP. We might all have to self-regulate and move into more populated areas such as Cuba/Bahamas intersection and pretend that map has gotten a lot smaller. That would increase player density and foster more PvP engagement. We as players have a degree of agency that we can and should exercise to solve such problems. We can all collectively agree to just fight over Bahamas or Antilles and ignore the rest of the map if we really want to increase player density.

 

I would suggest that people be patient and trust the devs to address their concerns and to come up with a solution. At the very least, let them finish their work on the next content batch which might lead to a necessary wipe; at that time we can all self-merge into one server on equal footing. 

[Ruthless4u]

Demand, love it when people do that lol. Because demanding is so much friendlier than requesting.

[Mrdoomed]

I log in. I play. I have fun. What happens will happen when it happens.

[Anceitus]

the statement you are referring to:

 

 

We are going to discuss it this week with the team and maybe propose other options for captains moving to pvp 1

 

They clearly state that they are going discuss this on short term.

 

I can state with near certainty:

The moment they have a proposal, they will communicate that with the forum.

They won't take any sudden and abrupt measures without communicating with people.

 

With that said, on a technical level you cant just merge 2 servers, nations hold different teritory, people have outposts in different ports which become unavailable.

So, my best guess would be that it wont happen before a map wipe has happened. I think they will combine the potential merge and map wipe, so no damage is done.

TOO LATE. already leaked to forums, causing a mass exodus to pvp1. Pvp1 is so laggy its nearly impossible to even do a mission without a spike eveey 30 seconds (and im on good internet and a good gaming pc) the sysem that pvp2 is on works perfectly, why not just allow us players to piggy back off that?

I've been following the rumors of merge and the exodus of people from PvP 2 for some time now and it seems to me that lot of people are in a somewhat heightened state of agitation (to put it mildly in some cases). It is true that PvP 2 has seen a rather large drop in players lately, but there is still plenty of players who are not going anywhere and who are more than willing to engage in good old fashioned PvP. We might all have to self-regulate and move into more populated areas such as Cuba/Bahamas intersection and pretend that map has gotten a lot smaller. That would increase player density and foster more PvP engagement. We as players have a degree of agency that we can and should exercise to solve such problems. We can all collectively agree to just fight over Bahamas or Antilles and ignore the rest of the map if we really want to increase player density.

 

I would suggest that people be patient and trust the devs to address their concerns and to come up with a solution. At the very least, let them finish their work on the next content batch which might lead to a necessary wipe; at that time we can all self-merge into one server on equal footing. 

thats next to impossible with the amount of gb players vs everyone else. Also, it would require the US players to actually leave charleston, which... im not seeing.

A little tip

Don't use the word demand, it gives a bad image. I suggest the word "request" would work better.

I'm me, you're you. I do things my way, you do things your way. I have a method to my madness. Thanks for the tip tho

[admin]

We are focused on delivering the land in battles patch now. War & Peace will take some time to code and then tune together with players. 

We are reviewing the options on merges but don't want to delay the land patch

 

PS The key value is in the xp and crafting xp and that is safe across all servers! please remember that.

[OTMatt]

A little tip

Don't use the word demand, it gives a bad image. I suggest the word "request" would work better.

I say call it like you see it.

[Justme]

TOO LATE. already leaked to forums, causing a mass exodus to pvp1. Pvp1 is so laggy its nearly impossible to even do a mission without a spike eveey 30 seconds (and im on good internet and a good gaming pc) the sysem that pvp2 is on works perfectly, why not just allow us players to piggy back off that?

thats next to impossible with the amount of gb players vs everyone else. Also, it would require the US players to actually leave charleston, which... im not seeing.

I'm me, you're you. I do things my way, you do things your way. I have a method to my madness. Thanks for the tip tho

The "exodus" as you call it started well before anything was said about a merge.

[Long Beard]

 Pvp1 is so laggy its nearly impossible to even do a mission without a spike eveey 30 seconds (and im on good internet and a good gaming pc)

 

Never noticed tbh.

[Xaturas]

If they will remove all the mats I had to swim like a tard to get to for dozens of hours if not hundred + and then remove my craft recipes I will probably leave this game for good. Same as other people.

We will see if devs care about this game or don't care about playerbase because they already got $$$ from eary access.

[SteelSandwich]

It has always been said, with care, that everything is prone to changes/wipes unless mention otherwise.

 

Currently what is promised to be saves is XP and crafting XP only.

[Mrdoomed]

If they will remove all the mats I had to swim like a tard to get to for dozens of hours if not hundred + and then remove my craft recipes I will probably leave this game for good. Same as other people.

We will see if devs care about this game or don't care about playerbase because they already got $$$ from eary access.

You can leave yes but i think you should ask yourself this. Did you enjoy your time so far playing and gathering up your small empire? Do you see potential for the future of the game ? If so you could be throwing away years if fun because of a few weeks setback that everyone will be doing together bot just you.

I personally do not want to start over but if i do im gonna do it better amd not nake mist8i made this time.

Look at the big picture then make your desision. I hope you stay around.

[Xaturas]

You can leave yes but i think you should ask yourself this. Did you enjoy your time so far playing and gathering up your small empire? Do you see potential for the future of the game ? If so you could be throwing away years if fun because of a few weeks setback that everyone will be doing together bot just you.

I personally do not want to start over but if i do im gonna do it better amd not nake mist8i made this time.

Look at the big picture then make your desision. I hope you stay around.

No i didn't enjoy running around the ports to farm mats.

But I had to, so I did that.

 

As for the wipe, well what should be wiped is ports because pvp 1 and pvp 2 have different ports. Admins should be competent enough to copy-paste pvp 2 players database (recipes,mats, ships) to pvp1. Especially when pvp 2 playerbase is small and most of them moved already.

Early Acess is one thing, killing quite a chunk of playerbase early after the steam greenlight is another thing. And as I said before there is no major change happening to validate a wipe of everything but xp/craft xp. Admins made a mistake of making to many servers, stuff happens. A major part of community on first servers shouldn't be punished for it.

 

 

Rebuilding with better/more content is part of the beauty of any game.  Being at the end is just that the end.  Mrdoomed gave great advice.

 

Theres no new content related to items/ships/recipes. All that is happening is changes to port battles and mergin of servers, or basically putting few hundred of players from servers 2 to 1.

Edited April 1, 2016 by Xaturas

[Grundal]

Rebuilding with better/more content is part of the beauty of any game.  Being at the end is just that the end.  Mrdoomed gave great advice.

[Justme]

If they will remove all the mats I had to swim like a tard to get to for dozens of hours if not hundred + and then remove my craft recipes I will probably leave this game for good. Same as other people.

We will see if devs care about this game or don't care about playerbase because they already got $$$ from eary access.

How is it the devs fault your not smart enough to read would could potentially happen?

[Xaturas]

How is it the devs fault your not smart enough to read would could potentially happen?

I know what green light is i know game is prior to change. I repeat there is no real change happening to crafting/farming/mats/ships happening that requires a full wipe.

And refrain from calling me not smart.

 

I just say that a really big chunk of players will probably stop playing this game forever or for some major time. But it seems devs don't really care about server population so there is no point wasting my breath at this case. Money were earned as with many other green light games.

[Justme]

I know what green light is i know game is prior to change. I repeat there is no real change happening to crafting/farming/mats/ships happening that requires a full wipe.

And refrain from calling me not smart.

 

I just say that a really big chunk of players will probably stop playing this game forever or for some major time. But it seems devs don't really care about server population so there is no point wasting my breath at this case. Money were earned as with many other green light games.

It was stated clearly that the game at launch was still in development/testing. Just because you are not aware of changes planned that could mean a wipe of everything( except rank and crafting xp as stated) does not mean they are not there.

It is not smart not to do your due diligence, which clearly you did not due but sit here and complain about things you should know but refused to read.

[Balsafer]

A wipe of ships, and items you have may happen it was stated numerous times.  And it is probably more difficult to transfer player items than just copy and paste.

[Heibges]

Merging 1 & 2 doesn't seem like a practical idea for a number of reasons.

 

- Max server population is somewhere around 2000. Why would you go to the trouble of develope an online video game that can only support a population of 2000 playing at a time?  How are they going to make any money at that?

 

- What about the ping for players in Australia, New Zealand, Asia?  As someone else said, you could mitigate this by hosting the server in North America.

 

- If you can only support 2000 players per shard, are you going to "un-merge" the servers at General Launch?  This sounds disastrous.

[Random]

Perhaps decrease in server capacity (though it could be hugely unpopular) could redistribute players more equally among servers?

[Ted Nougat]

If they will remove all the mats I had to swim like a tard to get to for dozens of hours if not hundred + and then remove my craft recipes I will probably leave this game for good. Same as other people.

 

I think most (if not all) of the "other people" realize that a wipe was always going to happen. It's been transmitted loud and clear and multiple times that everything but XP is going to go away at some point.

[Mrdoomed]

No i didn't enjoy running around the ports to farm mats.

But I had to, so I did that.

As for the wipe, well what should be wiped is ports because pvp 1 and pvp 2 have different ports. Admins should be competent enough to copy-paste pvp 2 players database (recipes,mats, ships) to pvp1. Especially when pvp 2 playerbase is small and most of them moved already.

Early Acess is one thing, killing quite a chunk of playerbase early after the steam greenlight is another thing. And as I said before there is no major change happening to validate a wipe of everything but xp/craft xp. Admins made a mistake of making to many servers, stuff happens. A major part of community on first servers shouldn't be punished for it.

Theres no new content related to items/ships/recipes. All that is happening is changes to port battles and mergin of servers, or basically putting few hundred of players from servers 2 to 1.

Well unfortunately you sound like you did not have fun and have pretty much made up your mind. Thats to bad because there is sure to be alot more good comming soon and remember this is and has been advertised as early access so who knows what can come.

As far as your point about hated going from place to place getting mats but you had to i can not comment because ive never done it. I still make lots and lots of stuff and usually once a week i will have to make a 52 minute trip to gather things i just cant get in large supply.

I cant give advice on ho i play because it reqlly makes some people mad but i and most people hope you stick it out and hang with us.

Good luck.