mouse of war Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Really? Even if it is just a 'coincidence' the idea that anyone would want that association is beyond me - perhaps I know too much about history 7
Eldberg Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Oh, just let the puerile little kids have their clan tag.The group knows full well what it stands for, what it represents, and all they want to do is upset people.
SirLeggit Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) yeah i have to admit....i find it distasteful....considering that most of the clan are US players I would have thought they'd show a little more respect towards the generation that fought in ww2. Edited March 26, 2016 by SirLeggit 4
mouse of war Posted March 26, 2016 Author Posted March 26, 2016 Oh, just let the puerile little kids have their clan tag. The group knows full well what it stands for, what it represents, and all they want to do is upset people. No 1
Young Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 A group that exploits and are known anti-Semites with KKK avatars SS clan tags and JEW jokes every night. A toxic mix enough to make you sick 7
Zargor Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) The best way to counter such behaviour is to make fun of them. Call them self-service or any other pick from here http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SSand laugh at them. Bonus round: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/KKK- I especially like the "Kitty Kat Klub" Edited March 26, 2016 by Zargor
Young Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 No the proper way to deal with it is reset the exploiters and ban the racists 11
Zargor Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 No the proper way to deal with it is reset the exploiters and ban the racists I aggree on exploiters but ban the racist? Are you sure you want to go there? Because I see disrespectful talk often in national chat and sometimes it's very hard to say who is RPing vs who is just a cunt. 4
Lord Roberts Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) There are lots of things in the world that have SS as it's abbreviation, just because they have it does not mean it has anything to do with Nazi Germany, really silly that you would get soo offended by such a thing... Politically Correctness has gone too far.. can't even have SS on anything now.. If they are such a racist clan as you claim it to be, provide evidence instead of calling them out without backing it all up. Edited March 26, 2016 by Lord Roberts 7
Young Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 my measurement is this if you continue to make racist comments in chat your clan name is SS was STARS but had SS ruins as the logo and your members continue to make religious oriented jokes. You are not RP'ing you are just a bigot and a racist trying to impose your corrupt ideology on a gaming community. Then add the gorse abuse of exploits to it and you are the most toxic element in this community and should be punished as such. 5
Zargor Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Also, going the ban way is a slippery slope. What about other potential tags like these, are you gonna pre-emptively ban all those combinations?: IRA ETA UPA SALO FARC etc... there is many more that somebody will find offensive while to others it will mean nothing. Banning hardly solves anything given alo you will start seeing shit like 18, 88, 14 and more exotic derivations. Edited March 26, 2016 by Zargor 4
Young Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Yes its about context.. If you had called yourself self service and not made continual racially originated comments in chat. Every night since your clan was formed no one would have an issue. But when you add up the actions with the clear intent to troll it is an issue
Lord Roberts Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 my measurement is this if you continue to make racist comments in chat your clan name is SS was STARS but had SS ruins as the logo and your members continue to make religious oriented jokes. You are not RP'ing you are just a bigot and a racist trying to impose your corrupt ideology on a gaming community. Then add the gorse abuse of exploits to it and you are the most toxic element in this community and should be punished as such. Provide evidence of such religious jokes and exploits instead of bashing a clan without evidence. 1
Young Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Uh like the 100's of reports and the post complaining about removing the reinforcement "trick" The admin knows very well what is going on.
Porpoise Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Some tags or names are considered to be offensive for a reason. SS is one of them that there is simply no appology for using such tag. I know that there is different policy for this in the US. It is no offence in the USA to wear nazi swastikas blitzes and other symbols like them. That does not mean they can disrespect the others who find it offensive. And I think this clantag was not created accidentaly. Everybody, even in the US knows who SS were. There is no appology for that. I would never dare to come to any server with clantag for example Brothers of 9/11. Such tag would mean nearly nothing in my country, a stupid joke maybe, but it is highly offensive to Americans. People who founded the SS clan are probably not so sensitive. People with nicknames like Osama Bin Laden, Adolf Hitler and Stalin are banned in every game. Not because they are hiding history, but because it brings ill passions to the game. The SS clan is surely doing the same. Edited March 26, 2016 by Porpoise 6
mouse of war Posted March 26, 2016 Author Posted March 26, 2016 There are lots of things in the world that have SS as it's abbreviation, just because they have it does not mean it has anything to do with Nazi Germany, really silly that you would get soo offended by such a thing... Politically Correctness has gone too far.. can't even have SS on anything now.. If they are such a racist clan as you claim it to be, provide evidence instead of calling them out without backing it all up. One thing you can be sure of - that they know what the associations of 'SS' are AND they have no problem with being associated with it. Many of the clans wave their flags in their forum banners and talk about 'freedom' and 'liberty' - well it all sounds a bit hollow if we let this pass A game (or even a society) can turn toxic if we don't draw the line somewhere. And games are now a big part of society 1
mouse of war Posted March 26, 2016 Author Posted March 26, 2016 Also, going the ban way is a slippery slope. What about other potential tags like these, are you gonna pre-emptively ban all those combinations?: IRA ETA UPA SALO FARC etc... there is many more that somebody will find offensive while to others it will mean nothing. Banning hardly solves anything given alo you will start seeing shit like 18, 88, 14 and more exotic derivations. Yep it is a slippery slope - but it slopes both ways What about KKK? You ok with that? We either let the game go toxic or we draw the line. I don't know where the line is but SS is definitely on the wrong side of it. But let democracy sort this out - let's have a poll 1
mouse of war Posted March 26, 2016 Author Posted March 26, 2016 Offence is Taken, not Given. Quite right if you can say, hand on heart, that nothing has ever offended you
Galileus Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 But let democracy sort this out - let's have a poll Wait, are you seriously proposing this...? No. Just no. Too many people (including you) use this as ammunition in personal quarrels to blindly believe a poll to have any weight. This is not democracy. This community is centered around the dev team and theirs is the only word that matters in this case. 2
Lord Roberts Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 One thing you can be sure of - that they know what the associations of 'SS' are AND they have no problem with being associated with it. Many of the clans wave their flags in their forum banners and talk about 'freedom' and 'liberty' - well it all sounds a bit hollow if we let this pass A game (or even a society) can turn toxic if we don't draw the line somewhere. And games are now a big part of society I am not seeing any evidence that shows they are racists or them saying SS is associated with Nazi's
Quineloe Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Why is Secret Service so bad? Except that clan isn't making thinly veiled Secret Service references
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