Lord Vicious Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) sorry but the answer destroy your clan k thx bye is not acceptable we got our clan creator away from game since 14 days and unreachable outside with mails etc, all officer have sent pm to devs for confirm our request to transfer such creation status to another char if not possible becouse game have other priorities and this require too much work , give to officers ability to create other officers and kick ppl this is a quick fix since is all stuff that is already in game associated with creator status, this will avoid the unreasonable option of destroy a clan withouth even have the chance to use the same name/tag we cant be responsable for guys time, and lack of features in the clan creation Edited March 17, 2016 by Lord Vicious
Megalesios Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 Clan sector deserves a complete overhaul and adding some useful details, functionality as well. It does not even require modelling or deep programming.
xAzDKr Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 Right now the only thing you can do is create a new clan, that is it.
Bigvalco Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 The developers don't have a good system in place, they need to do what they can manually until they create a proper system. Imagine if the SLRN creator fell off the face of the earth, would y'all be willing to recreate that entire clan and go by a different name?
admin Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 The developers don't have a good system in place, they need to do what they can manually until they create a proper system. Imagine if the SLRN creator fell off the face of the earth, would y'all be willing to recreate that entire clan and go by a different name? Some random guy writes me on forum in PM and asks me to remove a creator and place him instead. Are you nuts? no in case you don't understand.. NO
Henry d'Esterre Darby Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 With regards to adding functionality: The entire Development Team is 100% utilized on the community's priorities from the Development Priorities thread. The community as a whole voted on what they wanted to see and when they wanted to see it. Each time someone on the forum demands functionality, and demands it right now, means, if efforts are turned towards that feature, the wishes of the community as a whole are disregarded. That is unacceptable. This feature might be worked on in the future, assuming it stands up to the scrutiny of potential griefing and exploits, etc. Demanding it be worked on right this minute, based on the needs of a very, very small fraction of the playerbase is out of order.
Slamz Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) I'm struggling to think of what games allow this. I am pretty sure I am still the guild leader of guilds I have not logged into in 5 years because most games don't have any concept of ownership transfer. It's not like Naval Action guilds are intricate structures with guild banks and guild ranks and complex membership structures. Just make a new guild. Not that hard. Make like 5 officers to help with invites and you're done. Edited March 17, 2016 by Slamz
Bigvalco Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 You have to also realize the main issue is that officers can't kick members from the clan, only the creator can. That is another simple change that could work.
Lord Vicious Posted March 17, 2016 Author Posted March 17, 2016 random? all officers from the clan itself
Lord Vicious Posted March 17, 2016 Author Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Some random guy writes me on forum in PM and asks me to remove a creator and place him instead. Are you nuts? no in case you don't understand.. NO Why you lie? first is not some random all officer of the clan sent you pm with our in game chars, second all asked for same thing confirming the request how is that random? we asked very politely and all we got is, we not care, destroy your clan and reform we even suggested some easy fix . Why when you cant handle a situation in a professional way you always turn everything down and become hostile? instead be logic and reasonable or at list friendly how is expected from a dev ? I do release in game also working for a canadian software house and when players ask us something like this our answer is usually Sorry to hear your broblems, we gonna take care of the situation and try to fix it , Edited March 17, 2016 by Lord Vicious
Lord Vicious Posted March 17, 2016 Author Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) I'm struggling to think of what games allow this. I am pretty sure I am still the guild leader of guilds I have not logged into in 5 years because most games don't have any concept of ownership transfer. It's not like Naval Action guilds are intricate structures with guild banks and guild ranks and complex membership structures. Just make a new guild. Not that hard. Make like 5 officers to help with invites and you're done. You just open mouth for the sake of doing it right? 1) 80 ppl is not easy to re invite you need to check who is on when etc 2) if we leave, the afk guy will not do it so name and tag will be already taken 3) Why devs cant fix this with a simple thing? add ability to kick /promote to officers? is a feature that clan creator have so add that to officer also not require almost any worktime 4) they can invert my and clan creator attributes on the code line and will be done is a copy paste of 1 line of code maybe Edited March 17, 2016 by Lord Vicious
SteelSandwich Posted March 17, 2016 Posted March 17, 2016 Lord Vicious, I'll repeat some of the words mister Darby shared earlier, since they are dead-on: The entire Development Team is 100% utilized on the community's priorities from the Development Priorities thread. The community as a whole voted on what they wanted to see and when they wanted to see it. Each time someone on the forum demands functionality, and demands it right now, means, if efforts are turned towards that feature, the wishes of the community as a whole are disregarded. That is unacceptable. This feature might be worked on in the future, assuming it stands up to the scrutiny of potential griefing and exploits, etc. Demanding it be worked on right this minute, based on the needs of a very, very small fraction of the playerbase is out of order. It has been indicated that problems like these will be worked on in the future, when is not known yet. Your proposed fix is appreciated and we do concern ourselves with the problem at hand, yet in light of other issues this does not reach top priority. Especially since there is a unfortunate (yet relatively easy way) to 'solve' this by creating a new/temporary clan. Due to the attitude presented here, this thread was locked. Kicking up dust is not going to prioritize this issue more. I hope the information presented answers your questions. SteelSandwich
admin Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 You have to also realize the main issue is that officers can't kick members from the clan, only the creator can. That is another simple change that could work. You are FTS right? Now imagine that developers transferred FTS creator status to a random guy who wrote something like this in a PM to me and all mods "I am the guy from FTS, our Creator have not logged in 10 days - please transfer creator rights to this person" This would be a disaster if any dev would do it. What if their desire is not genuine? If someone wanted to steal a big clan name for example? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_engineering_(security) People who want to kick members as officers should wait for this feature or ask creator to log in and kick undesired members. Simple and easy. We are here to protect you not to fail you. Lord Vicious should calm down and if he ever claims we are lying again he will be removed from forum and the game. This is against the rules 2
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