Honeymoon over

[Ronald Speirs]

Clear to see how the lack of Dev direction into serious issues has caused such a great decline in players lately, just in my timezone alone there is a drop of around 600 players, the devs seem content to focus on issues that are not important to keeping player base as we can see just from the recent patch, it doesn't do anything to entice players to stick around to continue testing as its nothing to fix the real issues.

 

1.) The grind alone has contributed to most staying away as they aren't retired or unemployed to commit to the grind to stay competitive, those grinding get attacked by those already ahead of them with mission jumping to find PvP thus slowing their grind even more.

2.) PB's that since day 1 haven't worked and are still allowed to continue the way they are, 8 or 9 ports changing within a few hours.

3.) Pirates who are the only nation that players can join without restarting with no real consequence and after joining have the same freedoms as their previous nation though they can attack their friends to farm.

 

Its about time to wake up and realize that the longer you let you lack of direction/ communication to such issues continue the further damage your doing to this game, EA was the biggest opportunity to set this game up and i fear that have done far more harm then good and will struggle to bring them back with this current direction your heading, the easiest thing to do with this game atm is to leave it for a few months or even a year to make you wake up till you show proper direction and progress and focus on the real issues and not the small non essentials fixes, i've been here since first release of sea trials and the game has grown but you have lost sight of the real issues that need immediate attention for the survival of this game, hopefully you hear this plea and not just put it away like it's nothing because i want to see this game grow to its full potential though the devs just need to realize and focus on the real issues!

Edited March 17, 2016 by Ronald Speirs

[Captain Tylor]

Clear to see how the lack of Dev direction into serious issues has caused such a great decline in players lately, just in my timezone alone there is a drop of around 600 players, the devs seem content to focus on issues that are not important to keeping player base as we can see just from the recent patch, it doesn't do anything to entice players to stick around to continue testing as its nothing to fix the real issues, the grind along has contributed to most staying away as they aren't retired or unemployed to commit to the grind to stay competitive, the PB's that since day 1 haven't worked and are still allowed to continue the way they are then pirate who are the only nation that players can join without restarting with no real consequence and after joining have the same freedoms as their previous nation though they can attack their friends to farm, its about time to wake up and realize that the longer you let you lack of direction/ communication to such issues continue the further damage your doing to this game, EA was the biggest opportunity to set this game up and i fear that have done far more harm then good and will struggle to bring them back with this current direction your heading, the easiest thing to do with this game atm is to leave it for a few months or even a year to make you wake up till you show proper direction and progress and focus on the real issues and not the small non essentials fixes, i've been here since first release of sea trials and the game has grown but you have lost sight of the real issues that need immediate attention for the survival of this game, hopefully you hear this plea and not just put it away like it's nothing because i want to see this game grow to its full potential though the devs just need to realize and focus on the real issues!

Another British whine about pirates, hidden in a wall of nonsense.. how original ....

Edited March 17, 2016 by Captain Tylor

[admin]

I honestly thought Speirs got married

[Ronald Speirs]

Another British whine about pirates, hidden in a wall of nonsense.. how original ....

obviously to diluted to see the real issues with your mechanics

Edited March 17, 2016 by Ronald Speirs

[xAzDKr]

Another British whine about pirates, hidden in a wall of nonsense.. how original ....

 

A strange comment from someone who spends most of their forum time complaining about everything. Should I remind you of your topic where you complained about how you tried to "win" this game and forgot how to have fun?

 

As for the OP: I definetly believe there need to be some considerable changes in the current Port Battle system, because that is end-game content that a lot of the longer-time players desire, but they also need more ships to make the game more interesting in the short term and to appeal to new players and those who like to stay in the lower levels of ships. The recent crew rework was great and a long time coming, lets not forget that. I personally have high hopes for this game, maybe it's because I'm never and naive or maybe it's because I'm patient and see the potential in the dev team, when compared to alpha/beta games I have played in the past. 

[jodgi]

But, Ronald, dear! There is little direction in your post. You talk about "direction" and "important issues" like it's common knowledge.

For my part, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Also..

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^^here is some punctuation and whitespace for you to distribute into your next post.

[Galileus]

But, Ronald, dear! There is little direction in your post. You talk about "direction" and "important issues" like it's common knowledge.

For my part, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Also..

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^^here is some punctuation and whitespace for you to distribute into your next post.

 

Hahahaha, I love you!

 

TEACH ME, SEMPAI!

[Powderhorn]

First I was going to say you should use paragraph breaks for ease of reading. On review, I notice a distinct lack of periods.

[Ronald Speirs]

But, Ronald, dear! There is little direction in your post. You talk about "direction" and "important issues" like it's common knowledge.

For my part, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Also..

.... .... ...... ............ .. . ........... ..

^^here is some punctuation and whitespace for you to distribute into your next post.

bahaha funny man, i could put some breathe space in there but that would require some breathing on my part instead of the keyboard smashing.

 

As we can see the player base is declining again, some in the community chose to ignore it and see it as whinging when players post forum posts about it, others see this issue and post on things they would like to see done to fix it and sometimes it does get abit full on, though it does seem to be the same issues raised again and again and we don't hear any direction on whats happening with them! do most feel that the PB system actually works, most battles are hardly populated as it take to long to sail there to defend or ports are attack when no ones on, or most are still grinding to be competitive or aren't high enough to join and make a difference.

 

If it took hours to just capture port it would make a hell of a difference then it does now, i seen 10 ports fall to 1 nation in a few hours, yeah that's so realistic and beneficial to the game, those who cant see this as a killer then they clearly are not seeing the bigger issue.

 

In terms of piracy, players can join a nation like Spain for example who were a great power of the time period in the Caribbean having the most territory back then only to find they have hardly any ports, they have been decimated with this current PB setup so whats stopping most of there population thinking why fight it and lets just join pirates as we can do that without great loss and keep most of our stuff, plus we have the bonus of farming each other, why even call them pirate to begin with as they are no where near what pirates actually were of the time, as the pirates slowly creep across the map its going to continue to happen till majority of players are pirate and the game gets renames to Pirate Action, true story and its coming to this game near you!

[Captain Tylor]

A strange comment from someone who spends most of their forum time complaining about everything. Should I remind you of your topic where you complained about how you tried to "win" this game and forgot how to have fun?

 

As for the OP: I definetly believe there need to be some considerable changes in the current Port Battle system, because that is end-game content that a lot of the longer-time players desire, but they also need more ships to make the game more interesting in the short term and to appeal to new players and those who like to stay in the lower levels of ships. The recent crew rework was great and a long time coming, lets not forget that. I personally have high hopes for this game, maybe it's because I'm never and naive or maybe it's because I'm patient and see the potential in the dev team, when compared to alpha/beta games I have played in the past. 

How is that in any way related? That made as much sense as OP

 

you guys must be drinking the same "tea"

[Mrdoomed]

I quit reading after the tears if the grind.

[jodgi]

Hahahaha, I love you!

 

 

<snip>

But they are looking at those issues. It's hard, tho. You want PB endgame, I want PVP over anything and today some guy posted that he left the game because of the new crew toggles?!. They can't possibly answer every request me make all-day-erry-day.

If you want to have it the way you think is best you should make concise suggestions and post them. Keyboard rage will never achieve anything more than a fart in the ocean does.

I do appreciate the passion, though!

[Ronald Speirs]

Jodgi i completely agree they cant fix them all, though the lack of communication and direction on important issues does send the community into chaos at times thinking nothings happening, the longer they are left unchanged the more damage it does as we can see from the declining playing group on servers, it is demotivating seeing it happen.

i've commented on this post in regards to gathering other players ideas on the Port Battles, was some good constructive communication in here, pirate posts are everywhere with multiple comments wanting change, hard to keep track of the best and most constructive ones

http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/12026-dare-to-dream-whats-your-ideal-port-conquest-system/

[SirLeggit]

obviously to diluted to see the real issues with your mechanics

just because you define them as "real issues" doesn't make them the real issues. Subjective opinion can not be turned into fact just because you posted on a forum.  Another backseat driving game developer thread....start developing your own mmo then you'll have some real insight into the mechanics.

Edited March 18, 2016 by SirLeggit

[Long Beard]

 and today some guy posted that he left the game because of the new crew toggles?!

 

 

Seriously? Crew toggles are great.  Ok need a little tweaking but we knew that.  If he left over this then probably a good thing. He'd have left over something minor eventually.

[Ronald Speirs]

just because you define them as "real issues" doesn't make them the real issues. Subjective opinion can not be turned into fact just because you posted on a forum.  Another backseat driving game developer thread....start developing your own mmo then you'll have some real insight into the mechanics.

 

So the constant posts about the same real issues means that majority expressing can be considered fact as it keeps on appearing throughout the forums, we are trying to make the game better and the more expressing the same opinions on the same issues makes them a real and serious issue that most want fixed, easier for the devs to notice if they keep getting posts about the same "real issues", so your subject to opinion means you cant see the obvious true from majority of the community and declining playing group, does this not post a major concern? or are all those posting wrong because they are expressing what they and their friends dislike about the game atm and this is why we have this decline, i want to see this game make its potential and fix what is driving most players away, you take from this what you will but its already clear what needs doing!!!

[Hugo van Grojt]

I have to partially agree with the OP - please let me elaborate:

 

Currently, the Dutch nation on PVP1 is under attack by Sweden. The Swedish use all the port timer shenannigans to their advantage to win the meta game by denying us proper fights and successfully preventing us from bringing our higher numbers of (less skilled, more casual) players we have to bear on their hardcore elite single fleet. This is due partly to the very short reaction times to crafted flags, 4 flags being crafted at the same time, very long travel distances in Dutch lands, et cetera.

 

It is a smart move on the Swedish part, but it is ruining the fun of the game for a major fraction of the Dutch playerbase because they cannot be on PVP duty 24/7 for over a week for various reasons - RL being one. As a result, we have seen a massive reduction in active players after just one week.

 

This is not a whining post about the evil Swedes, mind you. I tip my hat to their devotion. It is a whining post about the endgame content of port battles and port battle timers negatively affecting the enjoyment of the more casual players with a real life. The current system effectively allows a smaller group of dedicated 24/7 players to dominate nations with larger populations of more casual players. And this mechanic will lead to casuals leaving the game to do something else and play other games with more enjoyment for them.

 

Maybe this is intended, "PVE players go home and do not join a PVP server", yadda yadda - but I personally think that changes in the port battle system should be very high on the dev team agenda to prevent nations like the Dutch on PVP1 from bleeding a crapload of players. Otherwise, I expect to see the server population reduced to the hardcore few very quickly in the short term - losing many of the players that joined the game with the Steam early access release due to port battle fatigue. I would be interested to get a non-biased opinion from the British as to how their player numbers are doing now that they are on the defensive from the hardcore Danish PvP clans.

 

I do not have an answer to how the system could be improved for a more balanced strategic layer of gameplay in the RvR side of the game - I am just sharing my observations and would hate to see the player number decline rapidly.

 

Looking forward to you feedback.

 

Cheers, Hugo

[51st Highland]

I would be interested to get a non-biased opinion from the British as to how their player numbers are doing now that they are on the defensive from the hardcore Danish PvP clans.

 

 

I've not been on PVP1 for long but if last night was anything to go by there is no shortage of UK players, but a definite lack of organisation. There are too many casual players working alone or in pairs - including myself. I feel like I need to be able to put a lot of time into the game to be a member of the big UK clans, or one worth being a member of anyway, and this puts a few players off. 

 

I think what we need are more incentives for new players to work together, perhaps by giving players the option to invite random people to their admiralty missions, or creating a dedicated 'training' fleets for new players.

Edited March 18, 2016 by 51st Highland

[Babble]

Clear road map coming.  Stay tuned.

[Arvenski]

Clear road map coming.  Stay tuned.

Care to provide a source for that?

[Hugo van Grojt]

Clear road map coming.  Stay tuned.

 

A nice roadmap for changes ahead would certainly be welcome.

 

I put some more thought into my earlier argument and I have an addition:

 

There is actually TWO potentially harmful mechanics we need a solution for in the RvR part of the game:

a: The nation with the more hardcore 24/7 PvPers wins (look at Danish clan RUS eating the British for breakfast - 50 dedicated hardcore individuals changing the face of the game map)

b: The nation that can field the higher blobl numbers / can craft more flags simultaneously wins (Look at what happened to Sweden on Black Friday)

 

Scenario a: can currently be countered with bringing higher numbers and burning people out by making them attack those nasty 02-04 port timer ports - not a fun situation over extended periods of time.

Scenario b: can currently be countered by setting up those nasty 02-04 port timers like the Swedes are successfully doing against the Dutch currently - also not a fun situation for the majority of player to be in.

 

So, I would like to see a roadmap giving some insights into how the devs plan to alleviate the negative effects of either scenario somewhat to make for a slightly more stable game and for RvR wars that see border changes at a more controllable rate and to make the PB system more accessible to the casuals that want to contribute to their nation but do not want to be in a hardcore clan.  Eve Online type "reinforced" port battle timers? Dynamic flag costs based on Empire size / Citizen count of a given nation ....?

Edited March 18, 2016 by Hugo van Grojt

[VonVolks]

Not wanting to sound too ignorant but what is RVR?

[Karnaught]

Not wanting to sound too ignorant but what is RVR?

RealmVSRealm comes from WOW and other MMORPG in Naval Action probably means Port battles and PVP in big fleets trying to capture ports and stuff like that.

[HairballHacker]

Hey, I just bought the game less than an hour ago and I can't even log in to PvP or PvE. Game just hangs. Win 10, Steam install. Be grateful that you can even play.