Ship turn nerfed too much?

[Ned Loe]

What do you think, are new turn values are too much? ok? or too fast?

 

Share opinions. 

 

Picture shows 3 captains try to turn, pass each other and end up colliding and stuck sailing together.  Never drink and sail.

[Captain Tylor]

Too much Murica imo

[Ruthless4u]

Did a couple small battles tonight to get a feel for the new changes and I did end up colliding a few times with other ships that I don't think I would of before the change.

[marioch]

IMHO it feels way more realistic now, trying to turn against the wind is a nightmare and that's good

[Ronald Speirs]

The new turning seemed nice though i might need to test a bit more before full approval, all i can say is a little more practice on handling

[Tomms123]

Wind you just wanted to touch the other ships, dont lie to us D:

 

Well I havent tested it that much yet gonna do some more testing and check before I say anything ^^

[SteelSandwich]

If you dont use manual sails and allocate crew to everything except sail, you will turn like a brick, yea.

When allocating enough crew, your yards will turn like crazy, as well as your ship

[Blackjack Morgan]

Keep in mind it's early but my first impressions of the changes seem to be a bit much. It might be more realistic but that doesn't necessarily translate into more fun for me at least. Everything feels like sailing a brick, which again, might be closer to reality but it feels so sluggish that trying to rely on a more maneuverable ship might not be as effective anymore. Historically speaking I believe broadside armor and firepower were the two most important factors and ships mostly exchanged broadsides till one was beaten but that doesn't translate into great depth of play to me. Just feels like another step toward the road we have been going down where just about every single aspect of this game promotes the biggest ship you can get.....faster xp, faster gold grinding, and now even a bigger advantage in battles?

[Porpoise]

The problem is the Trinco. She sails like a pregnant whale now. Handling of smaller ships like the Surprise was OK. Trinco feels more like pre patch constitution now.

[Pigafetta]

Still testing and sailing of course. The first impression is that now using manual sailing in battle is fundamental, especially if you are trying to turn against the wind. Speed and maneuverability now go together and they are depending on how much sailors you have on sailing duty. More realism in the end, and up to now I like it. Even with my brick Frigate I can still manage to maneuver decently. Still some concern on the production buildings... but that is another topic.

[TommyShelby]

Trinco is like a whale now? 

 

I beg to differ. The Trinc is just as good as it was before. 

[Jacob van Heemskerck]

The new turning looks and feels more realistic now, you simply can't use your rudder if there isn't any water pressure on it, you need speed/movement for that.

And turning with yours sail's gives you forward movement aswel.

I like it!

[Ian2492]

 The slower paced battles are nice and ships feel more like ships now.

[kumisz]

It is not much worse than before the patch, just need to be careful when tacking. As Ian sain, ships feel like ships now.

[tankgame]

the trinc did not turn well before the patch so after several games with it this morning i could not tell eny differance but that might just be me

[Tindahbawx]

No, I dont think so. Want to turn fast? Take crews off gunnery for a bit and get them to manage sails till you complete your maneuver, then put them back on gunnery.

 

You're all, presumably, sitting there at 60% sail turning efficiency, and not one of you is using manual sails anyway to turn faster judging by the angle of your yards.

Edited March 11, 2016 by Tindahbawx

[Batman]

I like the new movement. Ships feel heavy now and you have to think twice if you really want to turn trough the wind or take the longer way.

[Long Beard]

What do you think, are new turn values are too much? ok? or too fast?

 

Share opinions. 

 

Picture shows 3 captains try to turn, pass each other and end up colliding and stuck sailing together.  Never drink and sail.

Dunno matey, this how I see most USA players sail       

[Capt. Rice]

Whats even more interesting is you can not turn/rotate ship while stop(which im fine with) but and AI can still when its demasted....

[Shoklar]

The new changes make it feel more realistic in pvp, but in pve it's a bit obnoxious since the npc's seem to have unlimited and instant rudder deflection.  Try keeping a npc 3rd rate from turning toward you while you're in a 3rd rate...it'll push you wherever it wants to go.  It is something to do with the rudder, because if you are able to disable the rudder on the npc 3rd rate, you can push it around the same as a pvp situation with 2 3rd rates going hull to hull.  As soon as the repairs the rudder, it will start pushing you around again.  The only way I've been able to overcome the rudder issue is by sliding back and shooting the rudder with my aft cannons, or a hard 90 degree ram on their stern.  Nothing else seems to be reliable for forcing them to turn into the wind for a boarding action.

[Capt. Rice]

The new changes make it feel more realistic in pvp, but in pve it's a bit obnoxious since the npc's seem to have unlimited and instant rudder deflection.  Try keeping a npc 3rd rate from turning toward you while you're in a 3rd rate...it'll push you wherever it wants to go.  It is something to do with the rudder, because if you are able to disable the rudder on the npc 3rd rate, you can push it around the same as a pvp situation with 2 3rd rates going hull to hull.  As soon as the repairs the rudder, it will start pushing you around again.  The only way I've been able to overcome the rudder issue is by sliding back and shooting the rudder with my aft cannons, or a hard 90 degree ram on their stern.  Nothing else seems to be reliable for forcing them to turn into the wind for a boarding action.

those third rates with their inboard motors....