The DRUNK rebellion

[DrunkenSloth]

The recent decision to make an agreement with the Danes has started some conflicts in Sweden, these conflicts are between players who support the agreement, and those who violently oppose it..This has made certain individuals choose DRUNK over other clans, sparking the DRUNK rebellion. Some may call us prideful and think we're not looking at the big picture, but I can assure them I am..The reason for this post is to inform the Danes that DRUNK will not honour the agreement, and we will only be increasing our presence in Danish waters, in our eyes this war is still young and our resolve is undamaged, we will fight with our cutters if we must, and rest assured you will forever have to watch your flank, there will be no safe travels in our waters or your own..Glory to Sverige!

[tylerf]

Thus we may know that there are five essentials for victory: 
1 He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. 
2 He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces.
3 He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks. 
4 He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared. 
5 He will win who has military capacity and is not interfered with by the sovereign.” 

 

-Sun Tzu

 

You are violating pretty much all 5. Luck can not protect against such behavior.

[Meraun]

The recent decision to make an agreement with the Danes has started some conflicts in Sweden, these conflicts are between players who support the agreement, and those who violently oppose it..This has made certain individuals choose DRUNK over other clans, sparking the DRUNK rebellion. Some may call us prideful and think we're not looking at the big picture, but I can assure them I am..The reason for this post is to inform the Danes that DRUNK will not honour the agreement, and we will only be increasing our presence in Danish waters, in our eyes this war is still young and our resolve is undamaged, we will fight with our cutters if we must, and rest assured you will forever have to watch your flank, there will be no safe travels in our waters or your own..Glory to Sverige!

 

 

Well i think you wont be using the Ports we got back in the Talks. everything else woud be inconsequet...

[Jacob van Heemskerck]

Thus we may know that there are five essentials for victory: 1 He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. 2 He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces.3 He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks. 4 He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared. 5 He will win who has military capacity and is not interfered with by the sovereign.”

-Sun Tzu

You are violating pretty much all 5. Luck can not protect against such behavior.

Nice quote,

But there are always people who try to piss against the wind.

It's easy for me to say i know, but i would accept the agreement.

Edited February 29, 2016 by Jacob van Heemskerck

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

Ah ! The Cause !...Has lost more wars than naught...all for the Cause.

 

And there I was, thinking I would go out of business given the recent truce and cessation of hostilities. Guess my employer, knowledgebly set apart from State politics, will be ordering the Privateers to intercept and prize Drunk'en shipping along the northern lanes.

 

Or maybe...hopefully...somehow... FREE QUEBEC !!!!

[Meraun]

feel free to join TS tonight and discuss this.

 

You rahter have talked to the other  Clans before you do a public move.

 

i'am also forced to mention taht DRUNKEN has 2 Members and does not represent Sweden in any Way..

 

And yes, im will call you shortsighted and egostic.

[Gerwin999]

feel free to join TS tonight and discuss this.

 

You rahter have talked to the other  Clans before you do a public move.

 

i'am also forced to mention taht DRUNKEN has 2 Members and does not represent Sweden in any Way..

 

And yes, im will call you shortsighted and egostic.

[DrunkenSloth]

I don't like to piss into the wind, I get wet ..And could we please not complicate a video game with sun tzu..I currently have no reason to accept such an agreement.

feel free to join TS tonight and discuss this.

You rahter have talked to the other Clans before you do a public move.

i'am also forced to mention taht DRUNKEN has 2 Members and does not represent Sweden in any Way..

And yes, im will call you shortsighted and egostic.

We're at 9 now.

[la Touche-Treville]

I don't like to piss into the wind, I get wet ..And could we please not complicate a video game with sun tzu..I currently have no reason to accept such an agreement.

We're at 9 now.

Well 9 drunken sailors against 3 nations....

 

I guess you won't be around very long.

May the gank fest start

 

Farewell

Edited February 29, 2016 by la Touche-Treville

[ov3rb]

so why 9 ppl want to shit up a game for whole their nation?

[DrunkenSloth]

Well 9 drunken sailors against 3 nations....

I guess you won't be around very long.

May the gank fest start

Farewell

Thanks for the vote of confidence

[Meraun]

so why 9 ppl want to shit up a game for whole their nation?

jap..

[DrunkenSloth]

so why 9 ppl want to shit up a game for whole their nation?

You seem to think people who disagree with the agreement are a minority, clans don't develop very fast but soon enough we will have a fleet. I'm not screwing up anything I'm playing the game, using the clan function to gather a group of players to have fun and fight together.

[ov3rb]

You seem to think people who disagree with the agreement are a minority, clans don't develop very fast but soon enough we will have a fleet. I'm not screwing up anything I'm playing the game, using the clan function to gather a group of players to have fun and fight together.

 

If most part of your nation really want to fight with us, i believe we will be forced to finish with any threats from our east. And it's not the way we wanted.

[DrunkenSloth]

If most part of your nation really want to fight with us, i believe we will be forced to finish with any threats from our east. And it's not the way we wanted.

If DRUNK is in fact such a small insignificant clan then have no fear, we wont be a threat

[Nash]

this is why we need diplomacy in the game asap. 

Same thing happen today for the dutch, some players are unhappy with a cease fire with the french and they want to rebel....

[Belize]

this is why we need diplomacy in the game asap. 

Same thing happen today for the dutch, some players are unhappy with a cease fire with the french and they want to rebel....

 

I dont think that a nationwide diplomacy would be good, because WHO should have the right to make such decissions? That would be only a Clan to Clan diplomacy system that could work.

[IronClaw]

I think that without in-game implemented diplomacy, anything other than a "no port battles" agreement is going to be very hard to achieve. I think the deal between France and the Dutch is as solid as it's going to get. They have their territory, we have ours, we agree to fight fair port battles without really conquering any territory. Anything more than that is very hard to uphold, as you can't really force an entire nation not to attack another nations single ships or small fleets.

 

If any small group wishes to rebel, we can't really prevent it. But knowing the French, if a small Dutch group rebels and doesn't get aid from the bigger clans, they will pretty much be roflstomped and that's the end of it.

[Guest]

[OFFTOPIC]

I would find it helpful if in Open World you can see which Player belongs to which Clan. So that you know if attackable or not. I guess this is a urgently needed Must Have Feature.[/OFFTOPIC]

 

Just my 2 Cents

Edited February 29, 2016 by Guest

[Meraun]

I think that without in-game implemented diplomacy, anything other than a "no port battles" agreement is going to be very hard to achieve. I think the deal between France and the Dutch is as solid as it's going to get. They have their territory, we have ours, we agree to fight fair port battles without really conquering any territory. Anything more than that is very hard to uphold, as you can't really force an entire nation not to attack another nations single ships or small fleets.

 

If any small group wishes to rebel, we can't really prevent it. But knowing the French, if a small Dutch group rebels and doesn't get aid from the bigger clans, they will pretty much be roflstomped and that's the end of it.

 

this, without ships from KF or HRE they wont be able to do more than ganking and harrasing

[mouse of war]

So some people welcome their new Danish/Russian overlords do they? Grateful to be allowed a few crumbs from the hands of their oppressors?

[Tretton]

Unclear what the DRUNKEN rebellion is really about actually... The right to gank missions or the right to steamroll ports? Please explain.

[Meraun]

So some people welcome their new Danish/Russian overlords do they? Grateful to be allowed a few crumbs from the hands of their oppressors?

 

go and troll somewhere else.

 

No alliance with the British or French was broken.

 

Btw where were the British on Friday anway? there is a lot of rumour... why they hold back

[Jacob van Heemskerck]

I don't like to piss into the wind, I get wet ..And could we please not complicate a video game with sun tzu..I currently have no reason to accept such an agreement.

We're at 9 now.

 

Sorry i had to do this, but you are pretty stubborn here.

Working with bigger clans would give you more benifit.

Edited March 3, 2016 by Jacob van Heemskerck

[marecek05]

I think that without in-game implemented diplomacy, anything other than a "no port battles" agreement is going to be very hard to achieve. I think the deal between France and the Dutch is as solid as it's going to get. They have their territory, we have ours, we agree to fight fair port battles without really conquering any territory. Anything more than that is very hard to uphold, as you can't really force an entire nation not to attack another nations single ships or small fleets.

 

If any small group wishes to rebel, we can't really prevent it. But knowing the French, if a small Dutch group rebels and doesn't get aid from the bigger clans, they will pretty much be roflstomped and that's the end of it.

 

This. That is why convoys and escorts for traders should be planned organized and possibly remunerated, through the more dangerous areas, at least on our side.