JobaSet was in middle GA, Wish List was in Orlando Fla, don't know where other 2 live but both join my clan because I saved them when everyone else called them Alts and kept pulling huge fleets on them...will ask when I see them again. Point is Wish List(me) had more than enough points to join at Start along with the other two. I am a US players Now after the Wipe. They need to get use to it..... Want to know why I made nonaggression pack with some Pirates.... When I was beached afk at a port(yea I know) had 2 or 3 members from a certain Clan pull a NPC and try to make it kill me, THEY talked about in battle chat it "wont stay on them" and say "if we leave it will turn back on him and kill them". But that is not all, over the weekend more than 5(maybe 6) times groups were pulling huge fleets As I am passing them then they start running away to leave me to DIE. Nothing has Happened to any of them and now with the verbal abuse I have taken over the weekend, some of would get you arrested in most states.yea they know who they are. None of that matter to me one bit, as nothing I can do about it, The verbal abuse Spatted off in Nation, is funny Keep it up you are just helping me recruit more people to my clan. I am and my clan are not going away and will grow because we will win when we fight...We have some order, unlike what the US has now.